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Cha

(297,273 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:08 PM Feb 2016

Backlash against Sanders as he questions Clinton’s embrace of Obama

CHARLESTON, S.C. — A suggestion by Sen. Bernie Sanders that Hillary Clinton was pandering to black voters by “trying to embrace” President Obama drew a sharp rebuke on Tuesday from one of Clinton’s top local allies, Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C. A professor who studies state politics called Sanders’ remark “insulting,” and said it could be a “significant deciding factor” in South Carolina’s Democratic presidential primary on Saturday.

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Hillary Clinton now is trying to embrace the president as closely as she possibly can. Everything the president does is wonderful. She loves the president, he loves her and all that stuff,” Sanders said, adding, “And we know what that’s about. That’s trying to win support from the African-American community, where the president is enormously popular.”

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“I think that could be a significant deciding factor here and, you know, because the community has been so supportive of the Obama administration and would like to see his legacy continue,” Stewart said. “I do think it is problematic when Sanders is framed as being anti-Obama, and the fact that he would call that pandering is insulting when, you know, truthfully, Clinton was part of the Obama administration. It’s not really false advertising from that perspective.”

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Clyburn noted that Clinton’s early work certainly couldn’t have been an attempt to curry favor with Obama, who was born in 1961.

Clyburn also suggested Sanders’ argument didn’t “hold water” given Clinton’s early work for the Children’s Defense Fund in the South.

“I don’t know how you can look at Mrs. Clinton’s history — she was not running for president in the 1970s when she came to South Carolina to work with those African-American juvenile detainees or juvenile inmates trying to better their conditions, when she went to work with Marian Wright Edelman, a native of Bennettsville, South Carolina, to come down here working with her trying to better the lives of children. … So, what was she doing? Who was she pandering to back then?” Clyburn asked.

More @ the link..
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-comment-about-hillary-clinton-232745375.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/24/early-bird-chat-673/#comments

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I have to go out so I won't be around to respond for while but I after seeing this I had to post.

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Backlash against Sanders as he questions Clinton’s embrace of Obama (Original Post) Cha Feb 2016 OP
Oh let me Kick before I go! Cha Feb 2016 #1
You know, I think that it was after a debate that some pundits used the term "cleave" to Obama. question everything Feb 2016 #2
I don't care what the disappointments have to say.. Obama is a popular President Cha Feb 2016 #3
We need to clone Rep. Clyburn. He is a Treasure. livetohike Feb 2016 #4
Tell me about it, livetohike.. Cha Feb 2016 #6
He sure did! I hope he joins Hillary on the campaign trail. Especially livetohike Feb 2016 #7
Oh yes.. that will be Great.. and President Obama, too! Cha Feb 2016 #9
Has Sanders forgotten Hillary was SOS in the Obama administration? Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #5
sanders doesn't care.. he must have thought it sounded good.. to his ears anyway. Cha Feb 2016 #10
But but she ran against him in 2008!!! FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #14
That's some of the silliest stuff I ever heard.. YES, sanders.. Obama and Hillary were both Cha Feb 2016 #18
Like all her accomplishments, that gets erased lolly Feb 2016 #31
Recall if you will what happened in the Senate and House races ... LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #8
Yeah.. so sanders thought it would be a good idea to run against him and Hillary in Cha Feb 2016 #21
Awesome comments from Clyburn! Lucinda Feb 2016 #11
Isn't James Clyburn just the perfect person to call out BS and correct the record on this, Cha Feb 2016 #23
He sure is. Lucinda Feb 2016 #24
and why was Hillary, President Obama's SOS, if they didn't see eye to eye? still_one Feb 2016 #12
Thank you Rep Jim Clyburn. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #13
I know, she.. Congressman Clyburn has an excellent point that only he can bring out so well! Cha Feb 2016 #19
"Clyburn noted that Clinton’s early work certainly couldn’t have been an attempt to curry favor Cha Feb 2016 #20
BAM! SunSeeker Feb 2016 #15
I have thought about it a lot, SunSeeker.. it's very insulting.. to the thinking people's Cha Feb 2016 #25
K & R! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #16
Sing it, Congressman James Clyburn! Cha Feb 2016 #26
Sometimes Senator Sanders seems to FORGET... yallerdawg Feb 2016 #17
sanders is late to the revolution.. Obama started it 8 years ago.. Cha Feb 2016 #28
Jim Clyburn is now officially my hero NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #22
Mine too, Riff! sufrommich is in South Carolina and she says he's has a really Cha Feb 2016 #29
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #27
Thank you, mcar.. compelling statement from Congressman James Clyburn on Hillary's Cha Feb 2016 #30
What I love about Clyburn is that he won't suffer fools as easily as John Lewis. He can get.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #32

question everything

(47,485 posts)
2. You know, I think that it was after a debate that some pundits used the term "cleave" to Obama.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know how much this helps Clinton. Certainly on these pages many expressed their regrets for voting for Obama, almost as soon as he got the nomination.

Why? He did not fit their very specific conditions of what a president should do and say.

Cha

(297,273 posts)
3. I don't care what the disappointments have to say.. Obama is a popular President
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:32 PM
Feb 2016

for good reason.. and Hillary and the President respect one another.

It's helps Hillary a lot as the article stipulates.

Please don't try to question the facts.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Has Sanders forgotten Hillary was SOS in the Obama administration?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

She embraced Obama in 2008, campaigned for him, nominated him on the convention floor. Besides the closeness of the Clintons and Obamas, Hillary was not the one who was trying to primary Obama in 2012 and think she was the one to primary him. I wish the real stories would be told, making up stories is not showing his trustworthiness.

Cha

(297,273 posts)
10. sanders doesn't care.. he must have thought it sounded good.. to his ears anyway.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:53 PM
Feb 2016

Thanking you, Thinkingabout.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
14. But but she ran against him in 2008!!!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

That has got to be the lamest statement he has ever said!!
Pleas end of March get here soon and put him back in the senate before he retires

Cha

(297,273 posts)
18. That's some of the silliest stuff I ever heard.. YES, sanders.. Obama and Hillary were both
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:12 AM
Feb 2016

running for President in 2008!!!!! And, now you and Hillary are running for President in 2016.. but you wanted the President Primaried in 2012.. Do You SEE the Difference?!

Just who does he think he's fooling with that BS?!

Mahalo Florida Blues for bringing that up!

lolly

(3,248 posts)
31. Like all her accomplishments, that gets erased
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:21 AM
Feb 2016

If only I had the proverbial dime (dollar now, with inflation?) for every Sanders supporter who whines that Hillary has never done anything besides marry Bill Clinton.

No sexism at all there in absolutely refusing to notice all she's done.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
8. Recall if you will what happened in the Senate and House races ...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

when the Democrats did NOT side with the President. How did that work out for them?

Cha

(297,273 posts)
23. Isn't James Clyburn just the perfect person to call out BS and correct the record on this,
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:59 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Lucinda!

Brilliant rebuttal of sanders' empty accusation!



still_one

(92,204 posts)
12. and why was Hillary, President Obama's SOS, if they didn't see eye to eye?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:31 PM
Feb 2016

That and the points Representative Clyburn contradict the implication, and are quite sad from the Sanders' camp

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
13. Thank you Rep Jim Clyburn.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:51 PM
Feb 2016

This part Cha

“I don’t know how you can look at Mrs. Clinton’s history — she was not running for president in the 1970s when she came to South Carolina to work with those African-American juvenile detainees or juvenile inmates trying to better their conditions, when she went to work with Marian Wright Edelman, a native of Bennettsville, South Carolina, to come down here working with her trying to better the lives of children. … So, what was she doing? Who was she pandering to back then?” Clyburn asked.

Cha

(297,273 posts)
19. I know, she.. Congressman Clyburn has an excellent point that only he can bring out so well!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:23 AM
Feb 2016

BS is trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator with his disingenuous whine about Hillary.. on BET yet!

Florida Blues brought up another thing sanders said about Hillary and the President.. he's saying .. but she ran against him in 2008!!! Actually he ran against Hillary.. she was in there first... They both ran for President ... just like you're doing now. You see how that works, sanders?

And then when he won he chose her to be his SOS and they've been friends and respectful colleagues ever since.

This is one of the weirdest things BS has come up with.. who in the campaign comes up with this type of crap? Is it just to make President Obama supporters mad?

Thank you, she!

Cha

(297,273 posts)
20. "Clyburn noted that Clinton’s early work certainly couldn’t have been an attempt to curry favor
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:26 AM
Feb 2016
with Obama, who was born in 1961."

P.S.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
15. BAM!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:28 PM
Feb 2016

Love me some Clyburn. He is so right. What Sanders said IS insulting, both to Hillary and Obama, because it suggests that no one but African Americans could possibly love Obama that much...that any Obama supporters who are not African American must be faking it. Pretty disgusting when you think about it.

And what happened to Sanders just wanting to talk issues? Why is he throwing this slime?

Cha

(297,273 posts)
25. I have thought about it a lot, SunSeeker.. it's very insulting.. to the thinking people's
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:06 AM
Feb 2016

intelligence.

Congressman James Clyburn after hearing sanders' accusation on BET..



He's like.. "hmmm? You did not just say that.

sanders and his team decided the "issues" weren't working so they'd try this... how's that working out for ya, BS?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
17. Sometimes Senator Sanders seems to FORGET...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:00 AM
Feb 2016

he's a Democrat now.

It is a rather late-in-life conversion, so we should expect some 'bumps in the road.'

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
22. Jim Clyburn is now officially my hero
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:24 AM
Feb 2016

He very politely but firmly (like you do with a 5 year old) corrected Bernie's misinformation. It's almost unbelievable that Sanders would say Hillary was "pandering" to black voters. Like she has to??! How badly is she leading among AA voters again?

Cha

(297,273 posts)
29. Mine too, Riff! sufrommich is in South Carolina and she says he's has a really
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:28 PM
Feb 2016

great ad out for Hillary.. .I can't wait to see it.

Cha

(297,273 posts)
30. Thank you, mcar.. compelling statement from Congressman James Clyburn on Hillary's
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 04:52 AM
Feb 2016

service of record!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
32. What I love about Clyburn is that he won't suffer fools as easily as John Lewis. He can get....
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:53 AM
Feb 2016

feisty, but in the nicest way possible.

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