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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:56 PM Apr 2016

Here's a release on that 47-41 Wisconsin Poll for Clinton

For the record I think Bernie is winning Wisconsin, but this does run counter to the last few polls out:

http://www.wtmj.com/news/cruz-clinton-lead-respective-races-in-new-poll

The poll, conducted by Loras College in Du Buque Iowa, shows Cruz holding a 38% to 31% over Donald Trump in the GOP Primary race. 18% of people polled said they would vote for John Kasich and 13% said they were still undecided.

Poll author Dr. Christopher Budzisz says they surveyed 1,000 registered voters across the state, including 832 likely primary voters.

It is the first time Loras College has polled Wisconsin voters.

On the Democratic side, 47% of surveyed voters said they would vote for Hillary Clinton, a 6 point lead over Bernie Sanders who garnered 41% of the vote.

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Here's a release on that 47-41 Wisconsin Poll for Clinton (Original Post) Godhumor Apr 2016 OP
First time poll metroins Apr 2016 #1
That's very interesting. BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #2
They generally don't update Saturday polls on Saturday Godhumor Apr 2016 #4
I salute you for that! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #7
Hillary want to run up the margins in NY. Dawson Leery Apr 2016 #20
These open primaries are a LOAD OF SHIT! RBInMaine Apr 2016 #22
Like everyone else in this thread so far DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #3
Yes, but then we have to put up with the whole "This changes everything" narrative when it doesn't. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #14
I think Bernie has WI, but I'm hopeful it will be close. book_worm Apr 2016 #5
Splitting the delegates will help Sanders a lot. Hoping for the best Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #15
Voter ID suppression in Wisconsin will hurt both Hillary and Bernie. Koinos Apr 2016 #6
I think you are wrong. I've been working the elections in Waukesha County for six years PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #12
Naturally mcar Apr 2016 #13
Of course, that's the purpose of Voter ID: NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #16
Hillary would be helped by a good turnout in Milwaukee. Koinos Apr 2016 #17
Indeed. PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #18
With all respect, they need to go get the damn ID's! No point bemoaning. Just go do it! RBInMaine Apr 2016 #21
It ain't always that easy. Especially for lower income folks that don't have time. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #23
I hope this happens, what a kick that would be to the old Bern FloridaBlues Apr 2016 #8
Here are some stats on this poll: book_worm Apr 2016 #9
I hope so but this poll seems a bit off SharonClark Apr 2016 #10
It possibly depends on how many college students are Wisconsin or out-of-state. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #24
Thanks for posting Gothmog Apr 2016 #11
Meanwhile flipping the AA vote in Wisconsin for him.. Historic NY Apr 2016 #19

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. First time poll
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:02 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not going to get my hopes up.

I want to stay positive, I'll reserve that for the Mid Atlantic states. However team Hillary destroyed Super Tuesday 2.

Maybe we'll be drinking champaign after WI.

Thank you for posting the poll.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
2. That's very interesting.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

RCP doesn't seem to have factored it in though. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_democratic_presidential_primary-3764.html

Like you, I believe that Bernie will have the edge in WI because it is an open primary where "Indies" and GOPers can and will cause mischief. But if the damage can be contained to single digits, it will be - almost - as good as a win and won't help Bernie all that much.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
4. They generally don't update Saturday polls on Saturday
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

And I doubt Bernie gains 10 delegates on Clinton.

There is a reason both candidates have moved on to NY, each of their internal polling is probably showing that final outcome on Wisconsin will be something of a non-factor on the delegate spread regardless of who wins.

Bernie needs to 100% concentrate on keeping his path from non-existence after April 19. Considering I vote in NY, I don't plan on helping him in that goal.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
20. Hillary want to run up the margins in NY.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

She is wise to do so. She can end this in a few weeks then.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
3. Like everyone else in this thread so far
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

I also think Bernie will win Wisconsin. BUT, I don't think by much at all. Which, given the ultimate goal is delegates obtained, is a good thing.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
14. Yes, but then we have to put up with the whole "This changes everything" narrative when it doesn't.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

That in and of itself is probably the worst part.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. Splitting the delegates will help Sanders a lot. Hoping for the best
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

For Hillary, NY will probably not give Sanders the majority of the delegates.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
6. Voter ID suppression in Wisconsin will hurt both Hillary and Bernie.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

College students and minorities will be turned away.

Even without voter ID problems, I don't think the corrupt administration led by Walker is capable of conducting a fair election.

You can expect missing votes, sudden appearance of uncounted votes, and other issues. And who knows how Waukesha will tally votes and how the state supreme court will deal with any potential illegalities.

I anticipate a worse mess than Arizona, and Bernie's supporters will blame it on Hillary.

I hope I'm wrong about this.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
12. I think you are wrong. I've been working the elections in Waukesha County for six years
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:47 PM
Apr 2016

Our former clerk was an incompetent asshole, but stealing an election in this state would take calculated coordination of so many people that keeping it hidden would be nearly impossible.

The Voter ID will hurt the inner city greatly.

LiberalFighter

(51,005 posts)
23. It ain't always that easy. Especially for lower income folks that don't have time.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

Even if a state photo id is free it still costs money.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
9. Here are some stats on this poll:
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016

Q23. What would you say is your race or Ethnicity?
White, non-Hispanic 89%
African-American or Black 4%
Hispanic or Latino 2%
Other 4%
Refused 2%
Q24. Did I reach you today on a landline or cell phone?
Landline 56%
Cell phone 44%
Refused 1%

One point about the validity of this poll is that they have HRC winning the 2nd Congressional District (which includes Madison) by four points. I would have to think that Madison would be Bernie's strongest district.

However, the other stats seem OK--they have Bernie winning younger voters (though not as high as other states) & men and HRC winning women and older voters. Also HRC is winning black voters by 69-14 & have HRC winning landline users and Bernie winning cell phone users.


http://www.loras.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Loras-WI-March-2016-release-1-toplines-and-crosstabs-final.pdf

LiberalFighter

(51,005 posts)
24. It possibly depends on how many college students are Wisconsin or out-of-state.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:03 PM
Apr 2016

Also, if Wisconsin students are using Madison as their residence or their hometown.

The first time I voted in 1972 I was in college living on campus. But I voted absentee in my hometown 20 miles away.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
19. Meanwhile flipping the AA vote in Wisconsin for him..
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

isn't working out in Milwaukee where he had a discussion of race.

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