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http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/bernie-sanders-is-trying-to-retroactively-steal-the-nevada-caucus-as-we-speak/24336/Remember the Nevada democratic caucus two months ago, when Hillary Clinton defeated Bernie Sanders by a margin of five percent of the popular vote? Clark County held its nominating convention today, intended as a mere formality to select the individuals who will travel to the state convention and cast Nevadas delegate votes in accordance with the will of the people. But as has become par for the course lately, the serial-cheating Sanders campaign has spent the day trying to retroactively steal the state away from Clinton through various shenanigans.
The trouble began when Clark County credentials chairman Christine Kramar was caught looping the Bernie Sanders campaign in on a private email exchange with the Hillary Clinton campaign, thereby giving Sanders access to the Clinton campaigns confidential information (not the first time Sanders has stolen Clintons private data in this election). The Clinton camp pushed to have the chairman removed from the position in favor of someone neutral, and the reason for concern quickly became apparent why.
We cant be quite ,we have to stand up for our rights for Hillary!!!!!
Cha
(297,764 posts)Good, glad they're calling it like it is..
Karma's gonna catch up to BS and it won't be pretty.
Thank you for this, Iamaartist~
FarPoint
(12,452 posts)As I said before, he only joined the Democratic Party for self serving gains, to run for President. He could not do it otherwise... So, he has no respect, loyalty as one has with co- workers or family.... He is just , an Election Thief.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)How many more states did he cheat on to win ,and who is behind it with him....????? don't trust him....
FarPoint
(12,452 posts)That indeed is a serious mystery.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)hypocrisy!
"Progressives" who literally scorn democracy when it doesn't give them the results they want. Losing credibility faster and faster.
Cha
(297,764 posts)http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/bernie-sanders-is-trying-to-retroactively-steal-the-nevada-caucus-as-we-speak/24336/
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)She's acting as if it is her rights that are being violated, when it is she who has interfered with the voting results.
Cha
(297,764 posts)and Hillary will get justice.
Whatever this woman did needs to be undone, and she should be charged with something to do with interfering with an election. Where does Sanders find these people?
Cha
(297,764 posts)we would ******!
pandr32
(11,624 posts)He is disgraceful!
Aloha Cha!
Cha
(297,764 posts)Aloha, pandr~
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)There were a lot of shenanigans going on during that Caucus by the Clinton supporters. Reports from various precincts said that many Sanders supporters were uncounted or their numbers reduced by improper Caucus procedures. Seems to me he's just getting his fair share of the state delegates.
Cha
(297,764 posts)Winning fairly.
This isn't the first time the BS campaign has been caught, either.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Amidst the overall meltdown today at the Clark County nomination convention in Nevada, which saw multiple delegates apparently shifted from Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders amid accusations that chairwoman Christine Kramar was cheating on behalf of the Sanders campaign, she had a meltdown of her own. Caught on camera, Kramar walked into a meeting where the Executive Board was supposed to be deciding her fate. She staged a sit-in, demanding that she be arrested, before ultimately leaving and throwing the bird at her own office.
In a six minute video posted to YouTube, Kramar begins making her case to the Executive Board, some of whom admit theyre not even sure what the accusations are against her. But rather than stating her case, she almost immediately demands that one of the board members physically remove her, trying to physically goad him into a confrontation, before sitting down on the floor and asking the rest of the room to join her in singing We shall overcome and sit on the floor with her. They all declined, with one asking her to stop acting in such a fashion.
Cha
(297,764 posts)Wow.. Thank you, Iamaartist!
Good.. this is certainly not helping BS' cause which makes me happy.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)methinks. Bit of a nutter.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)Please peddle your insinuations elsewhere.
We do not cheat, nor do we have to. The majority of voters actually like our candidate in spite of all the B***S*** that is thrown at her. That is why she leads by more than 2.5 million in the popular vote.
Gothmog
(145,631 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Going to get some sleep and get back at it..
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Cha
(297,764 posts)riversedge
(70,322 posts)Cha
(297,764 posts).. to forewarn of the upcoming meltdown in Nevada by one Christine Kramer. And, she's the one who cheated..
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)I guess he is trying to cheat his way to the White House the only way he knows how...is to cheat...
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Cha
(297,764 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)by Jon Ralston
Despite losing the state on Feb. 20 in the caucus, Bernie Sanders' campaign swarmed the Clark County caucus and probably flipped two delegates from Hillary Clinton's camp. Clinton was presumed to have a 20-15 delegate edge after the caucus based on her 5 percentage point win in the caucuses. But because the caucus process allows some delegates to be unbound, 12 of those were up for grabs at the 17 county conventions Saturday. Sanders had 600 more delegates in Clark on Saturday despite losing...
SOURCE
mcar
(42,388 posts)Thanks for this- it clarifies things.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)I seen the video unreal thanks
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Good on her! Well done missie!
HRC GROUP!
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)is making me so angry! Disgusted! Hope it backfires so good!
HRC GROUP READY!
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)riversedge
(70,322 posts)Kaivan Shroff
@KaivanShroff
If you're asking why Hillary's Nevada delegates didn't show up, it is because they were told they did not need to.
PS--I only recently discovered Kaivan on twitter:
Kaivan Shroff
@KaivanShroff follows you
Jack of all trades, master of some. MBA student @YaleSOM, @BrownUniversity Class of 2015. Manager of #Millennials4Hillary Account: @StillWithHer
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Brian Fallon @brianefallon 12h12 hours ago
Among grave issues affecting County convention results in NV: notice went out to delegates wrongly saying they didn't need to show up today
still_one
(92,433 posts)is more than obvious that Sanders is not an honest person as he has been trying to portray
I have had it with his campaign and supporters calling Hillary every name in the book. Another broken promise on how he would run a clean campaign. I guess it is more than evident that the man behind the curtain is not who we thought he was.
It is starting to look like every thing about Sanders is phony.
The Clinton campaign gave Sanders three different dates for the NY debate, and he rejected all three.
Three different dates, and his campaign couldn't find one that was satisfactory.
I have had it up to my neck with Sanders and his bullshit
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Clinton campaign press secretary Brian Fallon tweeted: Among grave issues affecting County convention results in NV: notice went out to delegates wrongly saying they didnt need to show up today.
Among grave issues affecting County convention results in NV: notice went out to delegates
wrongly saying they didn't need to show up today
Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) April 3, 2016
Number of irregularities in NV today that were very troubling but we dont expect outcome to alter fact that Clinton has more NV delegates
Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) April 3, 2016
More allegations of shenanigans:
Looks like Hillary people were sent wrong information about not having to show up in NV today. pic.twitter.com/RSQRvkkItH
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)and that the Dem party there switches to a primary rather than keeping this blasted caucus.
It really sounds as if the SBS campaign is taking a lot of pages out of KKKarl Rove's playbook. Not good at all.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)and Trump's bullish attitude!
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Just our opinion here his been trying to rigged the election from day one..... because he couldn't win fair he knew it,more likely he will blame his staffers then himself
riversedge
(70,322 posts)and some just can not resist.
But this seems just plain WRONG!
Kaivan Shroff
@KaivanShroff
If you're asking why Hillary's Nevada delegates didn't show up, it is because they were told they did not need to.
PS--I only recently discovered Kaivan on twitter:
Kaivan Shroff
@KaivanShroff follows you
Jack of all trades, master of some. MBA student @YaleSOM, @BrownUniversity Class of 2015. Manager of #Millennials4Hillary Account: @StillWithHer
Brian Fallon @brianefallon 12h12 hours ago
Among grave issues affecting County convention results in NV: notice went out to delegates wrongly saying they didn't need to show up today
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)OK, I am officially, completely and thoroughly disgusted with the SBS campaign. SBS has totally lost his "white hat" so far as I am concerned. It's taken a while but it is what it is.
This tactic is nothing but Rovian and also very like the Nixonian "dirty tricks" against McGovern. Ironic that.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)riversedge
(70,322 posts)riversedge
(70,322 posts)the Sanders folks were just smarter than the Clinton folks who did not show. That poster--a bernie fan seems to think it is alright for party officials to send out lies. People tend to believe memo's when they are sent out by Party officials. This email has to be sent to all media outlets. IMHO
all american girl
(1,788 posts)Ron Paul people in Iowa, 2012. Same crap they pulled there. Rachel did a lot of reporting on it....oh that's right, the Berns don't believe her anymore.
There's one thing I'm still confused on, the Berns say that Hillary cheated during the Nevada caucuses...what "cheating"did her people do? All I heard was that Reid encouraged casino owners to let their employees vote. I thought more people voting was a good thing....
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)vote for Bernie, of course. His campaign not only represents double standards but outright lies when its sends out false emails (or a la Henry II towards Thomas a Becket - encourages and allows such to be sent) specifically to deter Hillary's supporters for attending the meeting.
It used to be that the GOP or GOP operatives were the only ones who did this to each other. For example, all previous precedents involve GOP candidates and their primary opponents. And it used to be only GOP operatives who did this to Dems, aka Nixon's dirty tricks squad against McGovern, etc.
But now, for the first time in recent years in a Dem primary, the long-time Dem candidate and front-runner is subjected to dirty tricks and outright lies from her primary opponent who finds himself in a losing position. That he then presents himself as purer than thou instead of as the politician who will do anything to be elected that he so clearly has shown himself to be shows exactly how much scorn for the electorate he has, IMO.
If nothing else, this shows how much the "Convenient Candidate" despises the Dem party, its leadership, and everything that Dems stand for, which is not so much a surprise as a very deep disappointment.
Sanders has finally lost ALL credibility with me. IMO, he has absolutely no class left and even the low road has fully eroded around him. I'm completely done with him now.
JSup
(740 posts)...some of his supporters even use the same "It's Happening!!!!" .gif just with BS instead of RP.
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)kiva
(4,373 posts)by reading one of the many other threads that point out that:
a. the caucus system in Nevada is a product of Harry Reid and the Nevada Democratic Party's hubris, not a devious plan hatched by Bernie Sanders years ago; and by the way, that system also gave Obama extra delegates in 2008 when Hillary delegates failed to show up at the state convention
b. when Christine Kramer was removed, two Hillary supporters linked arms with her in solidarity because they also thought that she was being unfairly targeted https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1509733/full_content
c. all delegates received that infamous e-mail and both campaigns tried to correct the misinformation; apparently Bernie's campaign was more successful in their outreach
d. all delegates who showed up at the convention were seated
e. after the initial votes were counted and hundreds of people left, a Hillary delegate made a motion to recount the votes which would have disenfranchised all of the delegates who left because they were told their votes had been registered; only the fact that this motion was voted down by the delegates who were present stopped this attempt at stealing the vote
William769
(55,148 posts)Have a nice day.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)1. Credential chairs have to be above reproach. This was evidently not true in Clark County.
2. The email that stated delegates don't have to show up should be investigated as to who wrote it, approved it and received it.
3. Was there no communication between Hillary's campaign and her delegates?
I hope we receive more information about this situation.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:07 PM - Edit history (1)
The letter that was sent ONLY to Clinton delegates by the suspended chair of Clark County Christine Kramer. This letter indicates, falsely, that attendance was not required at the convention. Sanders supporters did not receive this notification. A lawsuit has been filed and this will be going to a courtroom which will not be the kind of exposure Sanders will want as being a blatant cheater. But as we have all heard, cheaters never prosper!
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LiberalFighter
(51,137 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,137 posts)from the first caucus.
The delegates in our state primary will be determined by the election results.
At the state convention the state delegates that were elected go into their respective congressional district to decide the delegates to the national delegates.
Anyone running for a national delegate position allocated to Hillary or Bernie can only run for the spot allocated to the candidate they declare their support.
Separate ballots are printed for Hillary and for Bernie. State convention delegates can only vote for national delegates in their congressional district. And they have to select a Hillary or Bernie ballot that has a list of people supporting the candidate. No one can get a ballot for both candidates.