Venezuela says U.S. "far-right" wants to kill Capriles

[Eugene]

Source: Reuters

Venezuela says U.S. "far-right" wants to kill Capriles

By Daniel Wallis and Andrew Cawthorne
CARACAS | Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:05pm EDT

(Reuters) - Venezuela's acting president said on Wednesday that "far right" figures in the United States were plotting to kill opposition leader Henrique Capriles in an increasingly volatile atmosphere ahead of an April 14 election.

Accusations are flying and emotions are running high in the South American OPEC nation of 29 million people since the death last week of former socialist leader Hugo Chavez.

"We have detected plans by the far right, linked to the groups of (former Bush administration officials) Roger Noriega and Otto Reich, to make an attempt against the opposition presidential candidate," Nicolas Maduro said.

He gave no more details, but said in a televised speech that the government had sent a senior general to meet with aides of Capriles. There was no immediate response from Washington or Capriles' camp.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/us-venezuela-election-idUSBRE92C1E720130313

[Demeter]

1. Far more likely they want to "off" Maduras

Just as they wanted Chavez gone. And for the exact same reason.

[Zorro]

2. Pre-emptive statement from the Maduro camp

The Chavistas are the greatest threat to Capriles, and they're setting up the US to be blamed if they whack him.

[COLGATE4]

3. DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner!

[joshcryer]

5. Yep. Chavez used the same line, too.

[Bacchus4.0]

9. undoubtedly, it would be chavistas who try to kill Capriles n/t

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[Peace Patriot]

4. Pre-written rot from Rotters...

"Accusations are flying and emotions are running high in the South American OPEC nation of 29 million people since the death last week of former socialist leader Hugo Chavez." - Rotten

Zingy writing, too.

They probably put Roger Noriega and Otto Reich up to it, to fill in the story blank. They'd have to prop them up with canes and walkers. Aren't they getting a bit old for this?

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Rotters: Oh-oh-oh, a Capriles kill would be so-o-o sweet! Imagine all those accusations "flying" and emotions "running high" in that commie OPEC hell-hole! Make 'em jump!

Roger Norigganuttin: Where's my sippy cup?

Otto Reichstagfire: And my Viagra?

Rotters: Tut-tut-tut! Coming up, gentlemen! Now as for the denouement? Scene: Miraflores Palace. Beat one: Meaty chavista with tattoos...and RED t-shirt...disappears inside carrying high-powered rifle with scope. Cut to: Riots, teargas, bus on fire, baby stroller rolling aimlessly with Capriles flag on it. Whaddya think? Whaddya think? Good? Good?

Roger Norigganuttin: Z-z-z-z.

Otto Reichstagfire: Z-z-snort-z-z!

Rotters: Okay, okay...OKAY. (Thinks.) Meaty chavistas, looking like Chavez, with tattoos, in red t-shirts...and RED bandit scarves...beat down on two well-dressed elderly gentlemen wearing Capriles buttons and weeping for their young hero...whose blood...whose blood is spattered on one of the old geesers' jackets....

Otto Reichstagfire: Pshaw! Whad ya say? Won't they know us?

Rotters: (sly smile) Ah! Ah! Misomisdirection!

Otto Reichstagfire: Whad?!

Rotters: Mobius Strip. The Art of War. Get it? Get it?

Roger Norigganuttin: Z-z...naw, nuke 'em!

[joshcryer]

6. Huh? It's a quote from the homophobic bigot Maduro.

http://www.elnuevoherald.com/2013/03/13/1430048/gobierno-denuncia-plan-para-atacar.html

Maduro dijo, durante un acto en un teatro capitalino, que "hemos detectado planes de la ultraderecha vinculado al grupo de Roger Noriega (ex subsecretario de estado) y Otto Reich (ex diplomático) en los Estados Unidos para hacer un atentado contra el candidato presidencial de la oposición".

[Judi Lynn]

7. El Nuevo is notorious for publishing material not even connected to reality.

No reason to try to dump that stuff here, around people who expect much more.

Radio Progreso in Miami has spent years pointing out the monstrous whoppers being excreted there regularly.

El Nuevo. LOL.

[joshcryer]

10. That was the first Spanish link, would you like another?

What Spanish source would you prefer? I will happily find another for you. The quote is accurate.

[Marksman_91]

13. Don't bother with Judi

She cannot trust any media source that hasn't shown to be openly leaning towards a far-left ideology.

Not saying far-right leaning ones are trustworthy either, but apparently you can't have any that are unbiased.

[joshcryer]

14. No worries.

It actually gets hilarious to be loose with the sources when you know that the source is correct. It never ceases to amaze me how demonized the news wire is around here (AP, AFP, Reuters). The reporting is dry for the most part with the occasional editorials. It's just factual stuff. The headlines are not even necessarily written by the writers and criticism often doesn't go beyond the headlines (which tend to be written to get attention).

There are a shitload of good journalists out there in the news wire. If you're going to be critical, be critical of the journalist in question, not the entire news wire in general. It just makes you look silly.

But yeah, I tend to try to find good sources because people here would rather deflect than actually discuss issues. I'll never get over Maduro's homophobic and biggoted statements which "required a poster to verify first."

[naaman fletcher]

16. I don't know

While, yes, Judy only measures the quality of the source by whether or not it agrees with her worldview, PP's picking apart of news stories has actually opened my eyes a bit to the fact that the western media apparently relies on only a few sources in Latin America. Those sources have their own biases, so that what the Western Media thinks is an unbiased report really isn't.

[joshcryer]

21. The western media has a penchant for appeals to emotion.

You have to completely ignore the emotional aspects of the writing to get to the factual stuff. Direct quotes, actual observations, factual actions. I remember the reporting on the Amuray explosion. A lot of it was super emotionally charged.

I don't see much wrong with this if you are capable of parsing out the emotional language.

I admit that it is a problem for people who fall for this kind of reporting. But I see plenty of emotionally charged non-sense from Latin America media and propagandists, as well.

[joshcryer]

11. How about straight from the SiBCI?

http://www.minci.gob.ve/2013/03/maduro-hemos-detectado-un-plan-para-atentar-contra-el-candidato-opositor/

Note the .gob in the link. This is a government website.

No reason to try to dump that deflection here, now.

Hemos detectado planes de la ultraderecha vinculada al grupo de Róger Noriega y Otto Reich, en los Estados Unidos, para atentar contra el candidato presidencial de la oposición, Henrique Capriles Radonski.

[Bacchus4.0]

15. normal people don't intentionally try to make themselves look stupid

zorro nailed it. I assume they are worried they may not be able to control their rabid supporters so are looking to blame the US.

[joshcryer]

18. Not just that but it also serves as an instigator.

"We'll kill Capriles, and no one will know it's us, because the government already said there's a right wing plot to kill him."

[Bacchus4.0]

20. outright lies to their own people n/t

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[naaman fletcher]

17. The rightwing must have hacked the site.

Surely Judy didn't just make herself look stupid.

[wayne_fontes]

19. Judy takes a lot of pride on her research

Just wait she,ll tell you. What rational person wouldn't accept articles from counterpounch or znet as the gospel truth? If the facts run against her she will just repost the pictures of the Nixon being stoned for the hundredth time.

[Bacchus4.0]

8. I love it when the chavistas contradict their own leaders

http://www.elsiglo.com.ve/article/46554/Maduro-denuncia-plan-para-atacar-a-Capriles

Maduro dijo, durante un acto en un teatro capitalino, que "hemos detectado planes de la ultraderecha vinculado al grupo de Roger Noriega (ex subsecretario de estado) y Otto Reich (ex diplomático) en los Estados Unidos para hacer un atentado contra el candidato presidencial de la oposición".

El presidente encargado indicó que el director del Servicio Bolivariano de Inteligencia Nacional (Sebin), general Miguel Rodríguez Torres, "ya se reunió" con representantes del candidato opositor y que se les ofreció toda la protección policial "para garantizarle a él su tranquilidad, su vida, sus derechos políticos y que haga la campaña electoral que tenga que hacer".

El comando de Capriles no ofreció de momento comentarios sobre la información aportada por Maduro.

[joshcryer]

12. If it's a verifiable quote I don't care much about the source.

Because I know the first go-to canned-response is "but, but, it's a shitty source."

How about people go Google the quote?

Nah, too much work, confirmation bias sets in, points won.

[Bacchus4.0]

22. link to thread in LBN of the story that our chavista friends say didn't happen

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=427833