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Related: About this forumVenezuelan abuse of Colombian indigenous
http://www.semana.com/nacion/articulo/el-atropello-venezolano-indigenas-colombianos/344149-3Its tempting say even idiot chavistas would think this is wrong, but apparently not.
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The images speak for themselves. Members of the Ven National guard surrounded the civilians. They made them kneel and hooded them treating them like the bad memory of Abu Ghraib, where Iraqui prisoners were tortured. Why? "To torture us", responded one of the victims.
After a similar complaint, the town defender Jorge Armando Otalora decided to inspect what happened. There, in Guania, he found voluminous denouncements that left he uncomfortable. The Defender said that the townspeople said from 3 in the morning since on the 10 of May, men from the Guardia Venezolana without any cause proceeded to abuse them.
This was not the first time etc...
.Las imágenes son elocuentes. Miembros de la Guardia Nacional Venezolana rodean a los civiles. Los arrinconan y los encapuchan, como si se tratara de la mal recordada cárcel de Abu Ghraib, en donde se torturaba prisiones en Irak y se los llevan. ¿Por qué? Para torturarnos, responde una de las vícti
mas. Se trata de un indígena que señala la causa: Porque esta es tierra de nadie. Ellos aquí imponen su ley cuando quieren.
Ante semejante denuncia, el defensor del Pueblo, Jorge Armando Otálora, decidió ir en persona a inspeccionar qué ocurría. Allí, en Guanía, encontró un volumen de denuncias que lo dejaron inquieto. La Defensoría, por ejemplo, recibió información delicada de la población del corregimiento Cacahual en este departamento fronterizo con Venezuela. En esencia, ésta sostiene que desde las tres de la mañana del día 10 de mayo, hombres de la Guardia del vecino país llegaron al lugar y sin fórmula de juicio procedieron a atropellos.
La mayoría de lugares son indígenas dedicados a la minería artesanal. No era la primera denuncia. A este organismo han venido llegando informes similares. En este caso, todo apuntaba a algo más grave. Se advertía que entre 10 y 15 hombres de las fuerzas armadas de Venezuela se llevaron dos embarcaciones de la comunidad.
Pero eso no fue todo sino, que cargaron con elementos que incautaron: enseres, alimentos, dos planta de energía, dos motores para lanchas voladoras, 4 tambores de Acpm y 3 de gasolina (cada uno con 55 galones), y hasta un anillo de los moradores de la zona aledaña a Caño Sapo, afluente del río Atabapo, en jurisdicción colombiana. Todo se lo llevaron. Como si fuera un botín de guerra.
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Venezuelan abuse of Colombian indigenous (Original Post)
Bacchus4.0
Jul 2013
OP
This sounds like a good place to sentence Snowden to live the rest of his life, personal liberty
Thinkingabout
Jul 2013
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)1. This sounds like a good place to sentence Snowden to live the rest of his life, personal liberty
doesn't seem to be on the forefront.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)2. no, the Ven administration cares nothing for personal liberty
the lives of the people, only retaining power and siphoning off the wealth of the nation.
It would be a nice place to live besides the crime, corruption, and unavailability of basic goods. I am ambivalent about Snowden but he may want to be careful about being used as a tool by the Ven administration. Nicaragua and Bolivia would probably be more low key.
UnseenUndergrad
(249 posts)3. I think that was the point.
In other words, Venezuela in it's current governence is the perfect place to let Snowden rot/cool his heels until he decides to present his case back in the states.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)4. K & R