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Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:22 AM Aug 2013

Maduro: Primaries would've left Chavismo in pieces

Maduro cree que unas primarias habrían dejado al chavismo partido en pedazos



El presidente venezolano Nicolás Maduro aseguró hoy que se tomó la “sabia” decisión de que los candidatos para las elecciones municipales de diciembre próximo no salieran de unas elecciones primarias para evitar que el chavismo quedara partido en “pedazos”.
Video: VTV, 16 de agosto de 2013

“Si hubiéramos ido a procesos de primarias, ¿cómo creen ustedes que estaríamos ahora? Tengo una opinión: hubiésemos quedado partidos en tres, cuatro y cinco pedazos”, admitió en un discurso ante los candidatos del Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela (PSUV) y otros aliados a ocupar cargos en los 335 de municipios del país.

Maduro recordó que personalmente pidió, tras las presidenciales que ganó estrechamente el 14 de abril pasado, “un voto de confianza” del Polo Patriótico, la alianza de fuerzas oficialistas, para definir el “método unitario de evaluación, consulta y decisión” usado para definir a los candidatos de los comicios de diciembre.

Las primarias, prosiguió, “lamentablemente” entrañan “la amenaza permanente de la pasión individualista de alguna gente que aspira a cargos públicos con una fuerza sospechosa”.
“Si hubiéramos ido a procesos de primarias, ¿cómo creen ustedes que estaríamos ahora?”

“Sospechosa en una coyuntura como esta, con una ofensiva imperialista, con planes de amenazas de asesinatos a dirigentes de la revolución, incluyéndome a mí, con una guerra psicológica desatada como nunca antes”, agregó.

Su “método unitario de evaluación, consulta y decisión”, que dijo se caracterizó “por la vía del entendimiento democrático”, permitió “la unión de las fuerzas” oficialistas ya que garantizó “el objetivo central: la unión de las fuerzas revolucionarias, políticas y sociales en cada municipio del país”.

Las primarias no volverán a celebrarse en el Polo Patriótico mientras “prevalezca la cultura burguesa de las democracias carnavalescas”, sostuvo, y recordó que su gestión y la de su antecesor y fundador del Psuv, el fallecido Hugo Chávez, es de “transición al socialismo”.

Añadió que algún día, cuando el socialismo se instaure y consolide en Venezuela, existirá “una nueva ética y cultura política” con “un nuevo sistema electoral, un nuevo sistema público y socialista de elecciones de representación del ejercicio de la autonomía, la autoridad y la soberanía popular”.

La plataforma chavista y la alianza opositora Mesa de la Unidad Democrática (MUD) inscribieron hasta la semana pasada a buena parte de sus candidatos tras actos políticos encabezados por Maduro y el líder opositor, Henrique Capriles.

En partidos de una y de otra corriente han surgido, sin embargo, voces en desacuerdo con algunos aspirantes, lo que en algunos casos ha significado pugnas internas con la consiguiente inscripción de candidatos por fuera de la disciplina partidista.


Translation:

The Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro assured today that a "wise" decision was taken when candidates for the December municipal elections wouldn't be chosen via a round of primaries to avoid the Chavismo from falling into "pieces".

Maduro recordó que personalmente pidió, tras las presidenciales que ganó estrechamente el 14 de abril pasado, “un voto de confianza” del Polo Patriótico, la alianza de fuerzas oficialistas, para definir el “método unitario de evaluación, consulta y decisión” usado para definir a los candidatos de los comicios de diciembre.

Las primarias, prosiguió, “lamentablemente” entrañan “la amenaza permanente de la pasión individualista de alguna gente que aspira a cargos públicos con una fuerza sospechosa”.
“Si hubiéramos ido a procesos de primarias, ¿cómo creen ustedes que estaríamos ahora?”

Maduro reminded that he personally asked, after winning the 14 of April elections, "a vote of confidence" from the Patriotic Pole (the alliance consisting of officialist parties) to define the "unifying method of evaluation, consultation and decision" used to pick the candidates for the December elections.

The primaries, he added, "regretfully" involved "the permanent threat of an individualist passion from some people who aspired for public positions with suspicious forces... If we had gone ahead with the processes of primaries, where do you think we would be now?"

"Suspicious in a joint like this, with an imperialist offensive, with plans of deadly threats to officials of the revolution, including myself, with a psychological war unleashed like never before," he continued.

His "unifying method of evaluation, consultation, and decision," which he claimed was characterized "by the path of democratic understanding", allowed "the union of forces" from the officialism since it guaranteed "the main objective: the union of the revolutionary forces, political and social, in each district of the country".

The primaries will not be celebrated within the Patriotic Pole so long as a "bourgeois culture of the ludicrous democracies prevails", he said, and restated that his gesture and that of his predecessor and founder of the PSUV, the late Hugo Chávez, is that of "transition towards socialism".

He added that some day, when socialism is finally implemented and consolidated in Venezuela, there will be a "new ethical and political culture" with "a new electoral system a new public and socialist system of representational elections exercised through people's autonomy, authority and sovereignty."

The chavista platform and the oppositional alliance known as the MUD registered until last week most of their candidates through political acts headed by Maduro and the opposition leader Henrique Capriles.

Within some parties of both political leanings, however, voices of disagreement have emerged, which in some cases mean internal conflicts regarding the choices for candidates outside of bipartisan conduct.


So, lemme get this straight, the Madurista government has admitted that their candidates were pretty much handpicked and were not chosen through primaries, and yet they claim to be the more democratic option in the country? Sorry, but that really doesn't make much sense. Say what you want about US politics, at least there each party's candidate is chosen through primaries and not handpicked by the party's leadership. Not only that, but not having primaries means that they don't trust their supporters enough to make the right decision when picking candidates.
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Maduro: Primaries would've left Chavismo in pieces (Original Post) Marksman_91 Aug 2013 OP
Simple excuses for the elimination of democracy Socialistlemur Aug 2013 #1
I completely agree with your take on the present COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #2
Maduro is already asking multinationals to come over... Oele Aug 2013 #3

Socialistlemur

(770 posts)
1. Simple excuses for the elimination of democracy
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:32 PM
Aug 2013

This is simply the imposition by a small Cuban controlled clique sitting in Caracas of its will over the party membership. The evolution of Venezuela into a dictatorship continues. I expect soon Maduro will request the National Assembly to surrender its power to legislate so he can rule by decree. This means Havana using its puppet clique will rule by decree over Venezuela. And this of course means soon we will see the Venezuelan regime requesting foreign multinationals to come over and do business with them. It's the new fascist model being implemented in cuba, and the probabilities are very high Venezuela will follow the same path. But I do wonder, given Venezuela's lousy reputation for nationalizations, and not paying its bills, will the greedy corporations take the bait? Time will tell.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
2. I completely agree with your take on the present
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:39 PM
Aug 2013

situation. In addition, VZ's reputation for nationalizations wasn't very good even pre-Chavez. The year Chavez was elected the previous government was trying to open up the electric energy sector to privatization. There was so little interest that only one Electric concession (Margarita Island) was ever privatized - and that one was re-nationalized by Chavez a couple of years later. Corporations are going to look at any offers to invest in Venezuela with very jaundiced eyes.

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