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ChangoLoa

(2,010 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:24 AM Feb 2014

Maduristas still can't show us ONE image supporting their claims about the students, what's wrong?

As we all can see in the forum, pro-Maduro posters still haven't been able to produce ONE picture of Venezuelan students shooting against the red shirts or the military police, throwing people out of public buses, destroying people's houses and all the horrific things they accused the students of doing.

A week has passed and not ONE of their accusations has been supported by a real image.

All they have is an old photoshoped picture of Lopez with an added pic of a hooded guy throwing a molotov cocktail next to him...
(posted here by Judi Lynn: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1108&pid=25587)
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So basically, what's wrong?
How do you explain that?

a) Laziness: are you guys simply too lazy to find something real?
b) No need for images: you consider articles written by a site that was created by the Venezuelan consulate in the US (venezuelanalysis) to be sufficient proof of what you claim?
c) False accusations: the students haven't done what you accuse them of doing?
d) Technology problem: pro-govt militants, militias and normal people on the bus don't have cameras in their cell phones?

NB: this is not a serious poll

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joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
1. I found some rock throwing and fire setting ones.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:39 AM
Feb 2014








In the first one they look super young, the other pictures where you can see their faces, they look terrified, but brave. I'd bet money if it was Honduras they would be fine with it.

Oh, wait, that's an easy bet, because it happened before. Who knew Reporters Without Borders was a legit source again? Could've fooled me!

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
3. Murderous fascists.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:47 AM
Feb 2014

On second thought, that second picture, it looks more like they're throwing ... trash. Plastic bottles. You can see some protesters holding plastic bottles in the background. Oh and there's a girl with a US flag scarf with CIA written on the front of her shirt. WTF is that about?

ChangoLoa

(2,010 posts)
4. Just saw that! But I can't tell what's written...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:10 AM
Feb 2014

Many students write messages in their T-shirts to make fun of the govt's "internal enemy" accusations, and now T-shirts with those messages are being sold in the streets.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
7. They're too infatuated with their ideology that they cannot at all accept they're wrong
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:44 PM
Feb 2014

It's the same case with any fanatic of any doctrine/religion: their way of life is so dependent on their mindset that if one day they see no choice but to accept they're wrong, it would ultimately shatter their fantasy world forever. I actually kinda feel sorry for them, really.

The ways of thinking in black and white, left vs right, basically thinking in extremes, is an outdated mindset that is no longer relevant in today's modern world that has become so globalized and people have so much access to information, that it makes it clear the world works in various shades of grey. But I guess for them it's easier to assume a black/white point of view, refuting any facts that disprove their points even when they're right in front of them. This makes them no different than the Teabaggers and hardcore conservatives that they so desperately denounce. The only difference is that they preach a different ideology.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
8. Exactly correct! Their blind devotion to their doctrinaire
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:51 PM
Feb 2014

never ceases to amaze me.

The only response they have is that we are fascist, RW trolls and disrupters. Stalin would have been so proud of these folks. And of course, they would have worshipped Papa Joe.

I believe that they have severe daddy issues. They weren't loved enough, so they latch onto the heroic, stern unwavering commie father figure who will save them from the evil capitalists.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
10. armchair revolutionaries that don't have to live under the repression and failure in Venezuela
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:08 PM
Feb 2014

They wage their fight on a computer screen in the comfort of the society they hate. Miserable people.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
11. Another good observation. They absolutely loathe the USA with a blind, pure white hatred.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:58 PM
Feb 2014

I think I understand why. In America, you are mostly on your own. This country is, first and foremost, a place to do business. Some people just can't thrive in this kind of society. It takes a very strong positive attitude to survive here. Malcontents who gripe about everything do not do well here.

I think the USA is not for the weak. We do have a nominal safety net, but it's not nearly what half of the country wants.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
12. Yes, resentment of the US position in the world
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:06 PM
Feb 2014

and the general failure of a radical socialist/communist model in the world. No-one is looking at Cuba (other than Ven) or Venezuela as a model government. China has embraced the worst of capitalism. N Korea is a joke of course. Nothing to point to.

There are good examples of moderate socialist countries in Europe. Peru and Brazil have leftist leaders who have done a good job. However, those countries don't have rabid anti-US pricks as their leaders so our friends ignore those. It ultimately goes back to the resentment of the US.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
13. I think the Scandanavian countries have found a good balance. If you want to make money, you
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:18 PM
Feb 2014

are free to do so. If you're not suited for real work, you'll receive basic necessities to keep you alive, but not enough to live high off the hog.

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