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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 03:50 PM Dec 2014

Fidel: 'Cuban Model Doesn't Even Work for Us Anymore'

Even more striking was something he said at lunch on the day of our first meeting. We were seated around a smallish table; Castro, his wife, Dalia, his son; Antonio; Randy Alonso, a major figure in the government-run media; and Julia Sweig, the friend I brought with me to make sure, among other things, that I didn't say anything too stupid (Julia is a leading Latin American scholar at the Council on Foreign Relations). I initially was mainly interested in watching Fidel eat - it was a combination of digestive problems that conspired to nearly kill him, and so I thought I would do a bit of gastrointestinal Kremlinology and keep a careful eye on what he took in (for the record, he ingested small amounts of fish and salad, and quite a bit of bread dipped in olive oil, as well as a glass of red wine). But during the generally lighthearted conversation (we had just spent three hours talking about Iran and the Middle East), I asked him if he believed the Cuban model was still something worth exporting.

"The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore," he said.

ttp://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/09/fidel-cuban-model-doesnt-even-work-for-us-anymore/62602/


Merry christmas. Fidel speaks the truth.

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Fidel: 'Cuban Model Doesn't Even Work for Us Anymore' (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Dec 2014 OP
More context (from the same article) ... Mika Dec 2014 #1
I agree with fidel in this case, not the interpretor Bacchus4.0 Dec 2014 #2
Cuba is open. Its the US that has closed itself off from Cuba. Mika Dec 2014 #3
ok, u 2. nt Bacchus4.0 Dec 2014 #4
Fidel Castro says U.S. reporter misinterpreted him Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #5
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
1. More context (from the same article) ...
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 03:56 PM
Dec 2014



I asked Julia to interpret this stunning statement for me. She said, "He wasn't rejecting the ideas of the Revolution. I took it to be an acknowledgment that under 'the Cuban model' the state has much too big a role in the economic life of the country."

Julia pointed out that one effect of such a sentiment might be to create space for his brother, Raul, who is now president, to enact the necessary reforms in the face of what will surely be push-back from orthodox communists within the Party and the bureaucracy. Raul Castro is already loosening the state's hold on the economy. He recently announced, in fact, that small businesses can now operate and that foreign investors could now buy Cuban real estate. (The joke of this new announcement, of course, is that Americans are not allowed to invest in Cuba, not because of Cuban policy, but because of American policy. In other words, Cuba is beginning to adopt the sort of economic ideas that America has long-demanded it adopt, but Americans are not allowed to participate in this free-market experiment because of our government's hypocritical and stupidly self-defeating embargo policy. We'll regret this, of course, when Cubans partner with Europeans and Brazilians to buy up all the best hotels).



IOW, Cuba always has been changing, reforming, and updating their Revolution - its not static, nor has it ever been.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
2. I agree with fidel in this case, not the interpretor
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 04:02 PM
Dec 2014

The fact that they are evolving just is more evidence. Feliz navidad. Maybe the castros will let cuba open up before they croak. It would be their greatest achievement

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
3. Cuba is open. Its the US that has closed itself off from Cuba.
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 04:05 PM
Dec 2014

Feliz navidad y feliz año nuevo

Judi Lynn

(160,655 posts)
5. Fidel Castro says U.S. reporter misinterpreted him
Thu Dec 25, 2014, 07:40 PM
Dec 2014

Fidel Castro says U.S. reporter misinterpreted him
By Summer Harlow

Former Cuban president Fidel Castro is claiming U.S. journalist Jeffrey Goldberg misinterpreted his words, according to Xinhua, the official state Chinese English-language news agency.

Goldberg, who writes for The Atlantic magazine, was the first U.S. reporter to interview Castro since the Communist leader became ill at the end of July 2006.

Castro was quoted by the reporter as saying, the "Cuban model doesn't even work for us any more." Now, however, Castro is saying that he wasn't referring to Cuba's economic model, and that what he really meant was that the capitalist system was not working, AFP reported.

In fact, Castro said he was "amused" at how his remark was interpreted when he meant "exactly the opposite" of what Goldberg reported, according to Bloomberg.

https://knightcenter.utexas.edu/blog/fidel-castro-says-us-reporter-misinterpreted-him

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I was misinterpreted on Cuban model not working, says Castro


HAVANA, Sept 11, (AFP) -Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro has insisted he was misinterpreted by a US reporter who quoted him as saying that the Cuban economic model “doesn't even work for us any more.”Castro, who left the presidency in 2006, recently gave a rare three-day interview with a reporter from The Atlantic magazine and a Cuba expert from the US Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

According to The Atlantic, which published its account on Wednesday, the 84-year-old Cuban revolutionary icon joked about the state of the Cuban economy. Castro said Friday he made the statement “without anger or worry. Now I'm amused to see how (the Atlantic reporter) interpreted it literally” in consultation with a CFR expert.

In this picture released by Cuban website www.cubadebate.cu, former Cuban President Fidel Castro attends the presentation of his new book “La Contraofensiva Estrategica” (The Strategic Counter offensive) at Havana's University on September 10. AFP

My answer, Castro said, “meant exactly the opposite” of what the reporter wrote, Castro said, speaking at an event presenting the second volume of his autobiography.

Castro said he was clear about Goldberg's intention when he asked if the Cuban model was still worth exporting: “It's obvious that implicit in the question was the theory that Cuba was exporting the revolution.”In Washington, CFR expert Julia Sweig, who was present at the interview, told AFP on Friday that she had a different take on Castro's quote.

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“My idea, as the whole world knows, is that the capitalist system no longer works neither for the United States or the rest of the world; it leads to one crisis after another, ever worsening, global in scope... and inescapable.”

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/100912/International/int_04.html

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Fidel Castro says his comment on Cuban model was misunderstood

From Shasta Darlington, CNN
September 10, 2010 9:02 p.m. EDT

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On Friday, Castro said he was correctly quoted, but that, "in reality, my answer meant exactly the opposite of what both American journalists interpreted regarding the Cuban model."

"My idea, as the whole world knows, is that the capitalist system no longer works for the United States or the world," he said. "How could such a system work for a socialist country like Cuba?" Castro called Goldberg "a great journalist."

"He does not invent phrases, he transfers them and interprets them," he said. "I await with interest his extensive article."

He told an audience that included some of his former soldiers who were there to mark the publication of his 608-page autobiography that the capitalist system "leads from crisis to crisis, each one more serious."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/09/10/cuba.castro.communism/


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