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forest444

(5,902 posts)
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 03:05 PM Jan 2015

Nisman case: Argentina’s Jews are (unwittingly) serving the far right

Haaretz
Published January 27, 2015
by Dr. Meir Margalit

Argentina’s Jews are serving the far right’s silent revolution
I ask myself how these wise and good-hearted people could have fallen into a trap and wound up on the same side as the country’s fascists.

It has been proved once again that in Argentina truth is stranger than fiction. What appeared to be a conspiracy theory has taken on real form. Dark forces from the past are returning, keen to reap vengeance on the Kirchner family because late Argentine President Néstor Kirchner, the husband of his successor Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, put them on trial for crimes against humanity.

About a week ago I wrote in Haaretz’s Hebrew edition that the murder of prosecutor Alberto Nisman reeked of a well-timed right-wing conspiracy, in cahoots with former police and army officials, to overthrow the government and destroy Argentina’s democracy, still weak after 30 years.
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And the (Jewish) community doesn’t notice that the far right is latching onto the legitimate protest and building the revolution's foundations based on its criticism. Not only does this attempt not serve the Jews, but you don’t have to be a historian to know that it will target them sooner or later.
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So Argentina’s Jews, whose pain is real, have become pawns in the hands of foreign interests who have nothing to do with them. Worse, they are serving a historical process that has been timed by forces that not only care nothing about the Jews, but will settle accounts with them the first chance they get.

At:http://www.scoopnest.com/out/?url=http://t.co/WhMXoK5gAj&id=560001819867226112
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Nisman case: Argentina’s Jews are (unwittingly) serving the far right (Original Post) forest444 Jan 2015 OP
Bush's Iran/Argentina Terror Frame-Up MinM Jan 2015 #1
"Yo soy Nisman." Brilliant. Nisman is dead. Judi Lynn Jan 2015 #2
Coup d'état de Cristina Fernández de Kirchner MinM Feb 2015 #3
Venezuela: a Coup in Real Time MinM Feb 2015 #4
We're fortunate to see these two links. Greg Grandin's Nation article is extraordinary. Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #6
The second link absolutely should be seen by as many eyes as possible. Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #5
like a RW remake of Costa-Gavras's "Z" MinM Feb 2015 #7
Excellent reading. Thank you. forest444 Feb 2015 #8

MinM

(2,650 posts)
1. Bush's Iran/Argentina Terror Frame-Up
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:02 PM
Jan 2015

What a crazy case. Crazier yet when you consider the role played by Nisman as documented in this piece from The Nation seven years ago ..

article | posted January 18, 2008 (web only)

Bush's Iran/Argentina Terror Frame-Up

...Team Bush's latest tactic is to play up a thirteen-year-old accusation that Iran was responsible for the notorious Buenos Aires bombing that destroyed the city's Jewish Community Center, known as AMIA, killing eighty-six and injuring 300, in 1994. Unnamed senior Administration officials told the Wall Street Journal January 15 that the bombing in Argentina "serves as a model for how Tehran has used its overseas embassies and relationship with foreign militant groups, in particular Hezbollah, to strike at its enemies." ...

In September 2004, a Buenos Aires court acquitted Telleldin and the police officials who had been jailed years earlier, and in August 2005 Judge Galeano was impeached and removed from office. But Galeano's successors, prosecutors [font color=red]Alberto Nisman[/font] and Marcelo Martinez Burgos, pressed on, hoping to convince the world that they could identify Berro as the bomber. [font color=blue]They visited Detroit, Michigan, where they interviewed two brothers of Berro and obtained photos of Berro from them[/font]. They then turned to the only witness who claimed she had seen the white Trafic at the scene of the crime--Nicolasa Romero.

In November 2005, Nisman and Burgos announced that Romero had identified Berro from the Detroit photos as the same person she had seen just before the bombing. Romero, on the other hand, said she "could not be completely certain" that Berro was the man at the scene. In court testimony, in fact, she had said she had not recognized Berro from the first set of set of four photographs she had been shown or even from a second set. She finally saw some "similarity in the face" in one of the Berro photographs, but only after she was shown a police sketch based on her description after the bombing.

Bernazzani told me that the FBI team in Buenos Aires had discovered DNA evidence that was assumed to have come from the suicide bomber in an evidence locker, and Nisman took a DNA sample from one of Berro's brothers during his visit in September 2005. "I would assume, though I don't know, that once we got the brother's DNA, they compared them," he said. But Nisman claimed to a reporter in 2006 that samples had been contaminated. Significantly, the Argentine indictment of the Iranians makes no mention of the DNA evidence.

Despite a case against Iran that lacked credible forensic or eyewitness evidence and relied heavily on dubious intelligence and a discredited defector's testimony, Nisman and Burgos drafted their indictment against six former Iranian officials in 2006. However, the government of Néstor Kirchner displayed doubts about going forward with a legal case. According to the Forward newspaper, when American Jewish groups pressed Kirchner's wife, Christina, about the indictments at a UN General Assembly in New York in September 2006, she indicated that there was no firm date for any further judicial action against Iran. Yet the indictment was released the following month...

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080204/porter

Although this backstory does fit in with the admonition from the op not to fall for the far right's version of events. Clearly there seems to be a case of political payback at work here .. among other things.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
2. "Yo soy Nisman." Brilliant. Nisman is dead.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jan 2015

Nisman, being toast, is serving the intended sneaky coup in the works from the very right-wing fascists who terrorized Argentina and tortured Argentina's President, Nestor Kirchner, the late husband of the current President Fernandez de Kirchner.

They are trying to fan the flames of his burning remains to fuel their rage against the President who has had, along with her husband, NOTHING to do with what happened in 1994. Outlandish, absurd! Designed to appeal to right-wing a-holes.

Great excerpt from your article:


About a week ago I wrote in Haaretz’s Hebrew edition that the murder of prosecutor Alberto Nisman reeked of a well-timed right-wing conspiracy, in cahoots with former police and army officials, to overthrow the government and destroy Argentina’s democracy, still weak after 30 years.

Indeed, as information leaks out, the conclusion that Argentina is undergoing an attempted revolution strengthens. This is an elegant, sophisticated and refined revolution. It’s being carried out not by tanks or attacks on the Casa Rosada, Argentina’s White House, but by stoking the kind of social and economic chaos that overthrew Chilean President Salvador Allende in 1973, which Naomi Klein described so well in her book “The Shock Doctrine.”

MinM

(2,650 posts)
3. Coup d'état de Cristina Fernández de Kirchner
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:06 PM
Feb 2015

Cristina Fernández de Kirchner seems to be playing this right so far in avoiding Allende's ultimate fate. Although as the op points out there are many dark forces at play here...

Speaking of which Damian Pachter has a new piece in Haaretz. Also, in a likely somewhat related piece, we learn this.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
4. Venezuela: a Coup in Real Time
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 10:23 PM
Feb 2015

More coup and Nisman items ..

". . . an absurdly sensationalist and misleading headline ran in several U.S. papers, in print and online, linking Venezuela to nuclear weapons and a plan to bomb New York City (“U.S. Scientist Jailed for Trying to Help Venezuela Build Bombs”, Jan. 30, 2015, NPR). While the headline leads readers to believe Venezuela was directly involved in a terrorist plan against the U.S., the actual text of the article makes clear that no Venezuelans were involved at all. The whole charade was an entrapment set up by the FBI, whose officers posed as Venezuelan officials to capture a disgruntled nuclear physicist who once worked at Los Alamos and had no Venezuela connection." ...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/02/venezuela-a-coup-in-real-time/

"How Did Argentina’s Alberto Nisman Really Die?":

"Nisman’s death is classic black-bag baroque. It involves spies, Cold War intelligence agencies, Israel, Syria, Iran, oil politics, and, of course, the CIA and Mossad. But before going in to the deals, I want to point out its eerie similarity to another bizarre political death, in Guatemala of Rodrigo Rosenberg in 2009.

Rosenberg, just before he was murdered, made a video in which he accused the country’s then left-of-center president, Álvaro Colom, of having killed him because he had evidence of corruption. Where Nisman reportedly predicted his own death (“I might get out of this dead&quot , Rosenberg, in his video, said “if you are hearing or seeing this message it means that I’ve been murdered by President Álvaro Colom.”

Rosenberg then paid assassins to kill him. It was all part of an intricate rightwing conspiracy to destroy Colom’s mildly reformist presidency. I realize that sounds crazy. But that was the irrefutable conclusion of the International Commission Against Impunity in Guatemala, the result of an extraordinary investigation described in compelling detail by David Grann in The New Yorker. And just as many of Kirchner’s opponents have seized on Nisman’s death to take to the streets and declare “Yo soy Nisman” (“I am Nisman”), protests broke out in Guatemala after the appearance of the Rosenberg video that nearly toppled Colom. One of Colom’s key constituencies were mobilized peasants, demanding policy solutions to the country’s chronic land crisis; the protesters that denounced Colom as an asesino were largely from the urban middle class. That is, they were the same social composition mobilized against other left or reformist leaders, in Thailand, Bolivia, Ecuador, and Venezuela. That year, 2009, in Honduras, similar protests brought down Manuel Zelaya." ...

https://www.thenation.com/blog/196809/black-bag-baroque-death-argentina


Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
6. We're fortunate to see these two links. Greg Grandin's Nation article is extraordinary.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 12:16 AM
Feb 2015

I made the move to file it away for future use before I was even half way through it. It's information we all NEED.

There is clearly no doubt whatsoever: we AREN'T going to find the truth about anything from our own corporate stenographers. If only we can continue to get amazing work like this from people of conscience we have a chance to make sense of it all, instead of becoming other members of the Walking Dumb, like right-wingers.

Thank you for contributing these links. So glad to learn from them.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
5. The second link absolutely should be seen by as many eyes as possible.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:42 PM
Feb 2015

So many U.S. Americans have believed this was going on for so many years. Seeing it spelled out in undeniable terms is priceless.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
7. like a RW remake of Costa-Gavras's "Z"
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 02:25 PM
Feb 2015
Billmon ‏@billmon1 · Puts Argentine conspiracy theories in larger context of RW backlash against Latin America's "vuelta al la izquierda"
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/02/argentina-right-kirchner-nisman/

Billmon ‏@billmon1 · With shadowy threads all running back to the CIA, Mossad, and the new cold war against Iran.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/02/argentina-right-kirchner-nisman/

Billmon ‏@billmon1 · ..against background of RW reaction in Latin America, & confrontation between Obama admin & Netanyahu/GOP/Israel lobby over Iran nuke talks.

Billmon @billmon1 · Odd timing of Argentine prosecutor's indictment, his allegations against Kirschner, then his death -- like a RW remake of Costa-Gavras's "Z"



forest444

(5,902 posts)
8. Excellent reading. Thank you.
Sun Feb 15, 2015, 12:15 AM
Feb 2015

It really is an unholy alliance, although in the case of Argentina my impression has always been that the impetus for all this chicanery hasn't come from U.S. reich-wingers or Israeli extremists as much as it has from Argentina's own fascists (the Opus Dei foremost, followed by some of the landowning elite, dictatorship sympathizers, and various hangers-on).

The Nisman case is indeed different, because here you really do have foreign interests who would have much to lose if the AMIA/Embassy bombings' nature as an inside job were to ever be publicly and widely acknowledged. But that was in fact the opinion of the first forensic analyses, of those who drew up the first charges in the Embassy case (dismissed, of course), and of the first Congressional Subcommittee head on the AMIA case (the late Carlos Soria). Interpol has also tacitly admitted as much by ruling out Iranian involvement in 2005. I wrote in more detail here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1108&pid=37474 .

Nisman was loyal to the official story until the end (much to the chagrin of victims' rights groups, which had been calling for his impeachment for years); but he had to be spoonfed everything - right down to his theory as to why Iran "did it" (the idea, as you know, was from an extremist Iranian opposition group MEK). Ultimately, he simply became worth more dead than alive - especially to the Argentine right in an election year.

Again, thank you MinM.

"The truth is easy to understand once discovered; it's a matter of discovering it." - Galileo

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