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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:30 PM May 2016

Venezuela's Government Must Carry Revolution To Its End

By Jorge Martin, Marxist.com
Popular Resistance
Monday, May 23, 2016


The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the “dictatorial regime”. Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention. What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?

On Friday May 13th, Venezuelan president Maduro extended the “Economic Emergency Decree” which had given him special powers in January, and further decreed a 60-day State of Emergency which includes sweeping powers to deal with foreign military threats and to deal with problems of food production and distribution.

As was to be expected, the world’s capitalist media joined in a chorus of denunciation, screaming about a “dictatorship”, while one of the main right-wing opposition leaders, Capriles Radonski made a public appeal to disobey the decree. The threats, however, are very real. It is worth giving a few examples. A month ago,an editorial in the Washington Post openly called for “political intervention” by Venezuela’s neighbours. At the weekend, former Colombian president Alvaro Uribe, at a “Concordia Summit” in Miami, made an open call for the Venezuelan Armed Forces to carry out a coup or, failing that, for foreign military intervention against “the tyranny”.

The Venezuelan right-wing opposition has made repeated appeals for the Organisation of American States to use its “Democratic Charter” to intervene against president Maduro. They feel emboldened by the successful removal of Dilma Rousseff in Brazil and want to go down the same road as soon as possible, by any means necessary, legal or illegal. Influential Venezuelan right-wing journalist and blogger Francisco Toro (editor of the Caracas Chronicles) has just written an article openly discussing the pros and cons of a coup, which he says would be within the constitution and “The Opposite of a Crime”.


Full, long article: http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_74104.shtml

This is a good read. These right-wing freaks have, and are doing everything possible to destroy Venezuela's economy to gain control and stop the people's revolution. Every dirty, ugly and very familiar trick in the book.
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Venezuela's Government Must Carry Revolution To Its End (Original Post) polly7 May 2016 OP
Parliamentary Coups: the New Strategy of Latin America's Right polly7 May 2016 #1
and here is the solution proposed in that stupid article: Bacchus4.0 May 2016 #2
I ignore what you write, not sure why you waste so much time at it. polly7 May 2016 #3
You responded I see. I just posted on Venezuela running out of sugar Bacchus4.0 May 2016 #4
Just wanted to mention it so you wouldn't bother so much with me with your right-wing polly7 May 2016 #5
You support the chavista government, so you support the horror they've wrought on the country Bacchus4.0 May 2016 #7
I support the right of a people who joined a revolution that brought them out of polly7 May 2016 #8
How about the right of the people to hold a recall vote for Maduro? Bacchus4.0 May 2016 #9
If that's so, then you should support that same people's right to recall Maduro Marksman_91 May 2016 #10
That's old fashioned fascism, not well disguised, either. Nasty seeing it here, or anywhere. n/t Judi Lynn May 2016 #11
That's the money shot. COLGATE4 May 2016 #6
Looking forward to reading the entire article from Jorge Martin, after scanning it. Judi Lynn May 2016 #12
I think the Venezuelan government isn't going to like how the revolution will end Zorro May 2016 #13
It's not going to end. Everyone knows that. No one wants the oligarchs sitting on his/her face. n/t Judi Lynn May 2016 #14
It will end if there is a referendum this year but that is why there won't be a referendum nt Bacchus4.0 May 2016 #15
So the fascists dirtbags get to disregard the Venezuelan constitution, and stage referenda whenever? Judi Lynn May 2016 #16
Yes, the fascist dirtbag chavistas. If the referendum is held prior to the midway point your hero Bacchus4.0 May 2016 #17

polly7

(20,582 posts)
1. Parliamentary Coups: the New Strategy of Latin America's Right
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

By Pablo Vivanco, teleSUR
teleSUR
Friday, May 20, 2016

For most, the decades of the 1970’s and 1980’s are regarded as a dark period for Latin America. Like Honduras and Paraguay, Brazil’s elites used the legislature against Dilma Rousseff. Is Venezuela next?

The majority of South American nations were taken over by brutal military juntas, while in Central America civil wars claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands. The armed forces in the region, often trained and financed by the United States, ruled through force and where civilian governments didn’t heed their agendas, these were ignored or overthrown.

Despite entailing the onslaught of disastrous neoliberal economic policies that exacerbated poverty and inequality, the 1990's also ushered in an end to the military dictatorships in Latin America. Elected governments returned to Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay, while peace accords in Guatemala and El Salvador also meant that the militaries would see a diminished role in the politics of those countries (at least in theory).

Latin America did not solve its numerous problems, but a general consensus was arrived at — no coups or military regimes should be permitted again in the region.

Of course, this consensus began to break with the resurgence of Latin America’s left, beginning with the Bolivarian movement and Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. Even though he initially harbored very modest proposals for reforms, Venezuela’s ruling class almost immediately sought to topple Chavez’s government. In April 2002 they acted as Latin American elites had done in previous decades and enlisted the upper echelons of the military to stage a coup to remove Chavez. The results were predictable — Venezuelans revolted against the coup and its leaders and the region (except for the U.S. government led by George W. Bush), rejected the move.


Full article: http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_74059.shtml

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
2. and here is the solution proposed in that stupid article:
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

If the Bolivarian leadership were to take firm and decisive action to address the problem of scarcity, this would rekindle a wave of revolutionary enthusiasm. Such measures would be: a monopoly of foreign trade; expropriation of the food production and distribution chain under the democratic control of the workers, communities and small peasant producers; a default on the foreign debt; expropriation of the banks and big businesses; a national democratic plan of production to satisfy the needs of the majority. This program, if implemented, would immediately provoke an even bigger clash with the Venezuelan oligarchy and its imperialist masters, but at least it would have the benefit of solidifying and extending support for it amongst the masses which would see their problems finally addressed in a serious way.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
3. I ignore what you write, not sure why you waste so much time at it.
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:44 PM
May 2016

Your hatred for the independence of LA countries has been evident for years.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
4. You responded I see. I just posted on Venezuela running out of sugar
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:51 PM
May 2016

its state run sugar refineries cannot obtain the raw materials because they don't have money to pay for it I assume. How does that fit into the article's premise that what is needed is complete state control of production? Every industry that the state has taken over has been a disaster.

p.s. Why did you delete your post on the Tumeremo massacre? You got nailed for going off the chavista reservation?

polly7

(20,582 posts)
5. Just wanted to mention it so you wouldn't bother so much with me with your right-wing
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

support of dirty tricks, coups, sponsored and paid-for 'violent protests', economic terrorism that ends up with those food shortages and everything else you're whining about being the people's revolution's and their gov'ts fault. It's used all around the world - when you can't outright bomb them for some made-up reason - this is the only method left to regain control of America's 'farm' - stop whatever progress they've made.

You support that horror, I don't. Which is why nothing you have to say interest me - it's all hate propaganda against people and nations who've done NOTHING to you.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
7. You support the chavista government, so you support the horror they've wrought on the country
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:05 PM
May 2016

The government is in charge. Its their policies that have destroyed the country.

You should have kept that post up on the government sponsored Tumaremo massacre for more than 10 minutes. That's ok, I put the story back up.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
8. I support the right of a people who joined a revolution that brought them out of
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

poverty, illiteracy for so many and involved them in all levels of gov't decisions.

And nah ......... right-wing freaks who want their 'farms' in LA back have destroyed many countries.

I don't give a fuck what you put back up, why keep whining about it?

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
9. How about the right of the people to hold a recall vote for Maduro?
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

Do you support that?

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Why did you post it in the first place only to take it down? It was a legitimate story. Even the government admitted it happened after initially denying it.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
10. If that's so, then you should support that same people's right to recall Maduro
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

After all, Chavistas stopped being majority following the last December elections. And now Maduro and his croneys are doing everything they can to unconstitutionally strip away power from that National Assembly that was CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE. What's your opinion on that? Do you consider that a coup as much as what's happening in Brazil?

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
11. That's old fashioned fascism, not well disguised, either. Nasty seeing it here, or anywhere. n/t
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
12. Looking forward to reading the entire article from Jorge Martin, after scanning it.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:01 PM
May 2016

It's great seeing articles like that make it to this arena, through the corporate mass disinformation programs.

Those of us who are really interested in what's right for human beings do watch, and think, and search for more truth. It's not hard to spot, either, when you see it.

Easy to spot the greed machine propaganda.

Thanks for these links, Polly7.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
14. It's not going to end. Everyone knows that. No one wants the oligarchs sitting on his/her face. n/t
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:56 PM
May 2016

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
16. So the fascists dirtbags get to disregard the Venezuelan constitution, and stage referenda whenever?
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

It was determined years ago and written into law that the referendum, unlike anything available in other countries, would be available half way through the elected term.

Fascists don't get to bend the laws just because they're the filthy a-holes everyone knows them to be.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
17. Yes, the fascist dirtbag chavistas. If the referendum is held prior to the midway point your hero
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:32 AM
May 2016

Maduro goes away along with the criminal chavistas. Venezuela would do well to ban chavismo then like the Germans did with the Nazi party. If the referendum is held after the midway point the chavista VP takes over and we continue to see dead babies in hospitals, looting, murders, shortages, and whatever other plague chavismo will certainly bring.

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