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GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:09 PM Feb 2018

77% of Venezuelans think there needs a change of government, while 16% likes Chavismo

http://contrapunto.com/noticia/ivad-contradice-a-hinterlaces-asegura-que-henri-falcon-ya-supera-a-maduro-en-preferencias-186105/

Unfortunately, the only opposition that Maduro will allow to run against him as a disaffected Chavista (Falcon, aka "Maduro Lite&quot and another perpetual presidential candidate (Allup) who is despised by the people as much as Maduro is. Not that an actual vote matters, as Chavistas cannot count anyway... they always have more votes for them than voters in their districts.

Apparently, 55% for PSUV and 45% for all other parties typically result in 117% of all eligible voters...
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MichMan

(11,952 posts)
2. Remember the days at DU when Venezeula was widely praised as the model for all governments?
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:20 PM
Feb 2018

Don't hear much from them anymore........

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
4. A friend of mine came across this. Quite appropriate
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:30 PM
Feb 2018
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Last year, the average Venezuelan lost over 19 pounds on the Maduro Diet. Mostly parent skipping meals so their kids could eat. But since last years "legalized looting", now grocers aren't restocking their shelves. There is no food to be had at any price.

Farmer-Rick

(10,197 posts)
3. You know according to our last US presidential election results
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:59 PM
Feb 2018

Trump got the majority of the women vote.....you know in your heart that is not true. It's because of Russia rigging our elections for Trump.

Do you think maybe the US is rigging things with their money in Venezuela elections just like Russia does in ours?

You know who really hates Venezuela and Chavistas the most? RepubliCONS, Trump and the Koch brothers. That's why our tax dollars go to funding the opposition parties in Venezuela.

We pay so that Venezuela has riots in the streets while our sick and poor die from lack of medical attention.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
5. How is this about Trump?
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:16 PM
Feb 2018

Trump wasn't president when Chavez attempted his first coup in 1992.
He wasn't president in 1999 when he was elected president of Venezuela as a populist
He wasn't president in 2002-3 when he fired every oil rig worker who went on strike for living wages
He wasn't president in 2003 when he introduced "currency controls"
He wasn't president in 2008 when he devalued the Bolivar
He wasn't president in 2007-12 when he "nationalized" 1147 businesses (now over 4000)
He wasn't president in 2015 when Maduro went full tilt dictator and refused to recognize the new super-majority National Assembly, pack the TSJ (Supreme Court) with lackeys, ash-canned the Constitution and disallowed recall elections.

Trump (for all his epic failings) isn't the least bit responsible for the shit-storm that is Venezuela.

So I ask again, how is this about Trump?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. Not to mention socialists seem to keep getting elected over and over again. The oligarths
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:10 PM
Feb 2018

and their apologists will never accept a fair sharing of the wealth...history is a bitch when it comes to informing folks of current affairs in Latin America.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
7. Well, the Pink Tide certainly isn't fairing so well these days
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:30 PM
Feb 2018

Everywhere you look, its an epic fail.

Even the shining star of the region, Evo Morales in Bolivia is turning to authoritarianism. Despite the voters and Bolivian Constitution making it clear that term limits are what they want, he feels that he is "too important" to be constrained by such trivialities as the whims of the citizen.

Or is there some other example that you think we should look to?

Castro's Cuba?

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
9. Big fan of Sweden/France/Norway style Socialism. Which is what Chavez promised
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:29 AM
Feb 2018

Not too big on Cuba/North Korea version. Which is what Chavez delivered.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
11. Apparently Maduro and the Chavistas
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:19 AM
Feb 2018

The entirety of Venezuelas military is infiltrated with them.
Most of the Chavista hierarchy is Cuban educated.
Poor Delcy can't hide her accent for all her effort.

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