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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:29 PM Mar 2019

Why are Venezuelans seeking refuge in crypto-currencies?

Venezuela has seen its currency rendered practically valueless after suffering one of the worst periods of hyperinflation since World War Two.

A cup of coffee now costs 2,800 bolivars (21p; 28 cents), up from 0.75 bolivars 12 months ago - an increase of 373,233%, according to Bloomberg data. And that's after a 2018 devaluation that knocked five zeros off the currency.

More than three million Venezuelans have left the country, as essential goods such as toilet paper and medicine have become unaffordable and crime has soared.

As a result, many are turning to digital assets such as Bitcoin as an alternative to the Venezuelan bolivar.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47553048

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Why are Venezuelans seeking refuge in crypto-currencies? (Original Post) Zorro Mar 2019 OP
that could definitely be a mutually beneficial relationship. Tiggeroshii Mar 2019 #1
I think you left off a zero, not that it really matters. MRubio Mar 2019 #2
So customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #3
If given the choice between funny-money bolivars and funny-money crypto... DetlefK Mar 2019 #4
I understand that, but customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #5
Ummm, I doubt anyone is buying cryptos with bolivares.... MRubio Mar 2019 #6
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. that could definitely be a mutually beneficial relationship.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:39 PM
Mar 2019

But damn. 3000% is very, very, very bad.

MRubio

(285 posts)
2. I think you left off a zero, not that it really matters.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:28 PM
Mar 2019

And, as one would expect, the few products actually produced here have inflated very little compared to everything else.

An example.

I buy corn every year, 30-40 metric tons and store it raw in steel and plastic drums. Months later we process the stuff and sell it locally. The townspeople use the final product to make arepas, the national food so to speak.

Anyway, looking at my notes from last October-November when I was buying raw corn, and calculating the value in dollars based on the then-current exchange rate, I paid anywhere from $0.09 to $0.15 for a kilo of corn depending on the quality of the product and the volume of the purchase. The exchange rate varied from a low of 113 bs/$ when I got started on 11 October to 294 bs/$ when I reached capacity on 19 November.

Today, raw corn can be bought in reasonable volumes for 600 bs S/kilo. Yeah, I've seen some higher quotes, but if one seriously looks for the best price today, 600 bs/kilo should be the max one would have to pay. Today's exchange rate? On DolarToday, which is the same source I've used while buying the corn, it's 3400 bsS/$.

So 600/3400 equals 0.178.......or $0.18 for a kilo of corn. Compare that to what I paid back in Oct-Nov.

I've tried to explain to these folks that if they'd produce what they need instead of depending on imports for every damned thing they need, they wouldn't have this devastating inflation, a lot more people would be gainfully employed, and they wouldn't be so dependent on the rest pf the world. But, I'm just one lonely voice.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
3. So
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 12:57 AM
Mar 2019

somebody out there is taking Venezuelan bolivars, and exchanging them for funny-money cryptocurrencies?

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. If given the choice between funny-money bolivars and funny-money crypto...
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:02 AM
Mar 2019

...I would go with funny-money crypto.

Because the value of a bitcoin only oscillates between $6000 and $15,000, while the bolivar is worthless.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. I understand that, but
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:20 AM
Mar 2019

Is the buyer from Venezuela paying with dollars, or some other hard currency? The sharpies who sell Bitcoin, etc. want real money for their fake money. I can't see any of them taking Venezuelan bolivars and "giving" a crypto-currency in exchange for that.

Why do that when you can find a sucker with Yankee cash?

MRubio

(285 posts)
6. Ummm, I doubt anyone is buying cryptos with bolivares....
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 01:37 PM
Mar 2019

......I think they'd first be changing bolivares into an internationally-accepted currency and then buying the cryptos. Having said that, I don't deal in cryptos so I may be all wrong. I've been wrong plenty of times before.

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