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Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:29 PM Feb 2013

This post is kind of interesting

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=229923

The previous poster posted a link to a prostitute (not prostitution) advocacy site.

The subject line reads, "Oh look, a man who wants to legalize prostitution."

So the obvious implication is that if you are a man, and you post a link to something that is pro-prostitute, it's not hard to guess your intention.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems to me that implying a man is or wants to solicit prostitutes is pretty much the moral equivalent of calling a woman a whore. The fact that it has absolutely no basis seems to make it particularly egregious.

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ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
1. It's a distraction by that particular poster
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:25 PM
Feb 2013

Let's ignore the site is run by women, because that's real problematic. It's gotta be mehnz up to no good again.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. C'mon-- it's not that much of a stretch to...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:29 PM
Feb 2013

think some guy pointing to a site promoting prostitution might have some thoughts about shutting down the local police "Johns Page" before his boss, wife, and brother-in-law see him on it.

But, making the accusation is a little out of line since we don't know, can't prove it, and it doesn't matter anyway-- perfect example of Aristotle's original ad hominem. Don't we hide things like that around here?

(Oops! Sorry, it's only some accusations we hide around here.)

This moral equivalence thing, though... Admittedly, if you think whores are some sort of immoral creatures, then one has to assume whoremongers would also be immoral. In that case, accusing a male of advocating prostitution without any evidence would be mysandry as sure as accusing a woman of being a whore without any evidence would be mysogyny.

But, what if one doesn't see anything wrong with prostitution of and by itself? Is "whore" then simply a generic insult for someone who does something for money, not love? In that case, accusing someone of being a whoremonger makes no sense at all.

In this particular case, though, just one side is drawn and it is once again the sound and fury signifying nothing.

(BTW, that site does address trafficking, sex slavery, and other such nasty things and seems to think they are bad when they happen, but doesn't think they happen as much as TPTB says it does. And to the extent it does, legalizing it will clean up most of the problems.)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. GT, it seems, desperately wants to find a fight with some pro-legal prostitution activists.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:56 PM
Feb 2013

He made that clear when he came into Bonobo's thread about dirty words and continually tried to make it about that topic.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. I'm not so sure he just desperately wants to find a fight period
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:53 PM
Feb 2013

He didn't seem to be all that informed about the subject mater and when called on it he pulled the "Team MRA" label and used it in the pejorative. Not hard to figure out why the usual suspects are in his fan club.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. Its funny how, in all the noise about "unfair characterizations" as justification for continued...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:59 PM
Feb 2013

(Um, "outrage" is out, so how about "angst&quot

Okay, yes, all the justifications for continued angst.. That particular oft and overused characterization continually gets a pass.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
6. *whistles, looks at ceiling*
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:11 PM
Feb 2013

I did say elsewhere, some people don't have a clue what misogyny actually looks like, for all that they throw the word around like confetti.

Some posters just sound better on ignore. It's not like they'd listen to an opinion from a prostitute anyway.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
7. this, yup even if someone involved voluntarily in the industry tried to tell why they do it
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:43 AM
Feb 2013

they would be ignored and told that they don't know what they are talking about and they don't realise they are being exploited. it's the same thing when porn is discussed or violent kinks, it's always people are being forced into it rather than realising some people enjoy the darker sides to sexuality.

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