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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:40 AM Jun 2012

JP Morgan finally admits the trading loss was huge: now 9 billion.

JPMorgan Slips on Report Trading Loss Widened to $9 Billion

JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) fell more than 6 percent in European trading after the New York Times reported
the lender’s trading losses from credit derivatives may total as much as $9 billion, exceeding the firm’s initial estimate.

JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon said on May 10 the bank lost more than $2 billion on bets in credit markets
taken by its chief investment office in London and
that the loss could increase by as much as $1 billion this quarter.
Dimon, 56, has said JPMorgan is in no rush to unwind the trades, even if adverse market moves produce bigger losses in the short term.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-28/jpmorgan-slips-on-report-of-trading-loss-widening-to-9-billion.html

gosh, he was only off by...450%.
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JP Morgan finally admits the trading loss was huge: now 9 billion. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 OP
2 billion became 4 billion, and now it's over 9 billion. PM Martin Jun 2012 #1
Best guess I have heard is 20 billion. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #6
geesh - how much is this corpos worth? That could bankrupt Jamie-boy wordpix Jun 2012 #14
It isn't real money...just pixels. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #15
They're worth much more than that. FBaggins Jul 2012 #16
I read somewhere it could go as high as $30 billion. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #17
du rec. nt xchrom Jun 2012 #2
As predicted here. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #3
At the Vegas tables, that is known as 'Letting it ride'. benld74 Jun 2012 #4
Or "Chasing the pot". bemildred Jun 2012 #7
Surprise, surprise, surprise. hay rick Jun 2012 #5
I know I'm not a financial wunderkind but I could have spent 9 billion more productively struggle4progress Jun 2012 #8
After losing the first billion dollars rusty fender Jun 2012 #9
That's the fun thing about derivatives Po_d Mainiac Jun 2012 #10
Yep. It's like my old dad said. "Every family has an idiot that everyone knows and talks about. mbperrin Jun 2012 #11
$9B to the hedge funds that beat them Sushi_lover Jun 2012 #12
When the people need the bailout Individualism Jun 2012 #13

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. It isn't real money...just pixels.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:34 PM
Jun 2012

And the bank will use the loss of their imaginary money to offset the non-taxes they pay.

FBaggins

(26,774 posts)
16. They're worth much more than that.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:51 AM
Jul 2012

They approach $100B/yr in revenues.

$9B hurts (and $20B would hurt much more), but bankruptcy isn't in the cards.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
17. I read somewhere it could go as high as $30 billion.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jul 2012

I read somewhere that it could go as high as $30 billion.

I'm not sure where I read that but that is what I remember.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
9. After losing the first billion dollars
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 05:31 PM
Jun 2012

you'd think that they would have taken away the rest of the money...?

Po_d Mainiac

(4,183 posts)
10. That's the fun thing about derivatives
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:44 PM
Jun 2012

You either hold till maturity, or pawn off the shit on some sucker.

JPM is having a difficult time finding suckers

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
11. Yep. It's like my old dad said. "Every family has an idiot that everyone knows and talks about.
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:37 PM
Jun 2012

If you don't know who it is, it's you."

Looks like JPM didn't know.

Sushi_lover

(1,430 posts)
12. $9B to the hedge funds that beat them
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:25 AM
Jun 2012

Easy money.

You don't even have to be smart enough to find the whale's bad bet. Just attend the conference where Weinstein presents his slideshow and points out the whale's folly.

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