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Related: About this forumKrugman: Depression Denial Syndrome
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/opinion/paul-krugman-depression-denial-syndrome.html?_r=0Last week, Bill Gross, the so-called bond king, abruptly left Pimco, the investment firm he had managed for decades. People who follow the financial industry were shocked but not exactly surprised; tales of internal troubles at Pimco had been all over the papers. But why should you care?
The answer is that Mr. Grosss fall is a symptom of a malady that continues to afflict major decision-makers, public and private. Call it depression denial syndrome: the refusal to acknowledge that the rules are different in a persistently depressed economy.
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For a time, Pimco where Paul McCulley, a managing director at the time, was one of the leading voices explaining the logic of the liquidity trap seemed admirably calm about deficits, and did very well as a result. In late 2009, many Wall Street analysts warned of a looming surge in U.S. borrowing costs; Morgan Stanley predicted that the interest rate on 10-year bonds would soar to 5.5 percent in 2010. But Pimco bet, correctly, that rates would stay low.
Then something changed. Mr. McCulley left Pimco at the end of 2010 (he recently returned as chief economist), and Mr. Gross joined the deficit hysterics, declaring that low interest rates were robbing investors and selling off all his holdings of U.S. debt. In particular, he predicted a spike in interest rates when the Fed ended a program of debt purchases in June 2011. He was completely wrong, and neither he nor Pimco ever recovered.
So is this an edifying tale in which bad ideas were proved wrong by experience, peoples eyes were opened, and truth prevailed? Sorry, no. In fact, its very hard to find any examples of people who have changed their minds. People who were predicting soaring inflation and interest rates five years ago are still predicting soaring inflation and interest rates today, vigorously rejecting any suggestion that they should reconsider their views in light of experience.
And thats what makes the Bill Gross story interesting. Hes pretty much the only major deficit hysteric to pay a price for getting it wrong (even though he remains, of course, immensely rich). Pimco has taken a hit, but everywhere else the reign of error continues undisturbed.
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Krugman: Depression Denial Syndrome (Original Post)
eridani
Oct 2014
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JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)1. Lots of right-wingers are paying the price for being wrong!
Bill Gross may be the only major deficit hysteric to pay a price for getting it wrong, as Krugman states, but lots of fans of right wing media have been steadily losing money with their investments in gold. They are putting their money where there mouth is and LOSING IT!
Rod Beauvex
(564 posts)2. I've heard before that gold is in a bubble right now...
and things will really get ugly when that one collapses.
I don't know enough about that sort of thing to comment either way.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)3. It will be interesting to watch.