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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 05:39 PM Aug 2018

Bankruptcy Booms Among Older Americans

For a rapidly growing share of older Americans, traditional ideas about life in retirement are being upended by a dismal reality: bankruptcy. The signs of potential trouble — vanishing pensions, soaring medical expenses, inadequate savings — have been building for years. Now, new research sheds light on the scope of the problem: The rate of people 65 and older filing for bankruptcy is three times what it was in 1991, the study found, and the same group accounts for a far greater share of all filers.

... among other things, longer waits for full Social Security benefits, the replacement of employer-provided pensions with 401(k) savings plans and more out-of-pocket spending on health care. Declining incomes, whether in retirement or leading up to it, compound the challenge.

“You can manage O.K. until there is a little stumble,” said Deborah Thorne, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Idaho and an author of the study. “It doesn’t even take a big thing.”

Older Americans typically turn to Medicare to pay their medical bills. But gaps in coverage, high premiums ... the Kaiser Family Foundation found. By 2013, the average Medicare beneficiary’s out-of-pocket spending on health care consumed 41 percent of the average Social Security check, according to Kaiser, which also estimated that the figure would rise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/business/bankruptcy-older-americans.html
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President Obama, in his 2009 State of the Union address, said that a medical bankruptcy occurred every 30 seconds.

https://www.thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729

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Bankruptcy Booms Among Older Americans (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 OP
My goodness, who ever could have seen THIS coming... ::sarcasm:: n/t TygrBright Aug 2018 #1
after treatment for cancer heaven05 Aug 2018 #2
I may be going there myself left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #3
yeah mine is not heaven05 Aug 2018 #4
Hey the entire country was told to hate unions and love 401K's turbinetree Aug 2018 #5
The majority of the people in this group voted for Mango Mussolini.. Permanut Aug 2018 #6
I Am Surprised This Is Being Covered Given The Trump Boom Narrative TomCADem Aug 2018 #7

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. I may be going there myself
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 08:31 PM
Aug 2018

Got five specialists and multiple health problems.

Even with a Medicare advantage plan,
the copays are killing me 'cause I'm on low Social Security.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. yeah mine is not
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 08:38 PM
Aug 2018

that substantial myself. The kicker is my cancer is suspected to have been caused by my Vietnam service and that Agent Orange they used to kill the foliage. I'm fighting VA now. Co-pays are the killer. Even with Medicare and insurance, I got one for 4thousand two hundred and ninety dollars 4,290.00. I'm retired, where in the hell can I get that from? May we just end up saying the hell with it. I told them they'll get it when I get it, laughed and hung up. Of course, they call every day.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
5. Hey the entire country was told to hate unions and love 401K's
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 08:47 PM
Aug 2018

because Ronnie Reagan said so....................and it was during that time they jacked up the requirement for SS....................and the country got to bail out the savings and loan and then ever since except when the deficit was paid off and we had surplus ....this country went to war, and most "average citizens, if married got $1200.00 back and blew a hole in the deficit ...................and then there is what the republican controlled congress did with health care...................blew a hole ........................

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/27/16040284/senate-republicans-health-care-lies

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2017/mar/28/america-party-less-caring-21-century-republicans-gop

https://www.npr.org/2012/08/06/157063512/american-dream-betrayed-by-bad-economic-policy


Permanut

(5,645 posts)
6. The majority of the people in this group voted for Mango Mussolini..
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 08:55 PM
Aug 2018

52%, according to Roper, and the same majority for the 45-64 age group.

I'm in that age group, so no slurs intended for the seniors here. My hope is that the vote percentages will change when the reality sets in.

[link:https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/|

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
7. I Am Surprised This Is Being Covered Given The Trump Boom Narrative
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 01:01 AM
Aug 2018

Every story seems to focus on GDP growth while ignoring that despite the growth in the GDP, the federal deficit is growing (which is amazing in growing economy), real wages are falling, and bankruptcy is booming for older Americans.

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