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Hotler

(11,437 posts)
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:33 AM Aug 2018

I'm going to post this here so I don't step on toes in GD

Retaking the House will do no good if Nancy or ? keeps impeachment off the table. I'm hoping for tough , bold leadership that will stop playing nice with the repugs. I'm listening for the term "bite me" to come out of the democrats once and awhile.

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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
1. Post election fine if we retake the House
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:37 AM
Aug 2018

Pre election I don't think it's wise.

If we don't take the Senate by a super majority it will be an exercise in futility however.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
3. Indeed. If there is anything that will get the Trump voters out is
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:49 AM
Aug 2018

the threat of impeachment.

Not good to talk about that before it can happen.

I think that the GOP would LOOOOOOVE for the twofer of Dems clamoring for Nancy to threaten impeachment right now.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
10. ++ Agree plus let's face it at this point all talk they could not do it until after they win
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 12:10 PM
Aug 2018

Win first
Trumpers will indeed rouse their on the fence or none voting neighbors against the injustice of impeachment and it's a potential win for Rs

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. Oversight, not impeachment
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:45 AM
Aug 2018

Don't put the cart before the horse. If he is to be removed from office, then we need to build public support by putting the evidence in public view.

brush

(53,801 posts)
8. That's what we can do once we win the House
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:53 AM
Aug 2018

We will have the committee chairs who can hold hearings on trump's crimes, do investigations, subpoena witnesses—all which will get info to the public as the press will have to cover them.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
4. Well, Trump voters have a rage boner right now and "Nancy Pelosi calls for impeaching Trump"
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 11:52 AM
Aug 2018

is the best way to get them down to the voting booth this November to shoot their electoral wad.

To use the rude parlance of campaign strategy.

gibraltar72

(7,508 posts)
9. Probably wise to keep our powder dry until
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 12:06 PM
Aug 2018

Muellers reports come out. If it is as I believe it will be then make that argument.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. What does this have to do with the Statement of Purpose of the "Economy" Group?
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 12:50 PM
Aug 2018

"Discuss fiscal and economic policy. Budget, taxes, spending, etc."

cutroot

(876 posts)
12. republicans are always driven by rage and fear
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:01 PM
Aug 2018

They are maxed out in that respect. It is the cheating and obstruction that give them their edge. Impeachment should be our call to arms.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Not true. Retaking House can block crappy legislation. It also allows House to pass legislation
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:03 PM
Aug 2018

on healthcare, social security, education, taxes, minimum wage, etc., that GOPers will either have to enact or reject, indicating their true colors.

Impeachment would be nice, but is not absolutely necessary to neuter trump.

Turbineguy

(37,360 posts)
14. One thing about governing, you have to think ahead.
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:15 PM
Aug 2018

It might be better to sit on trump than impeach him and get Pence.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
15. Why is this posted in 'Economy Forum'? Clear Violation of Forum Purpose.
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 01:20 PM
Aug 2018

You can't hide out a thread in another forum because of blowback you may not want to hear.

This belongs in GD.
At least honor the system DU has given us.

Your Thread has Absolutely Nothing to do with ECONOMY
Thank you.

Tansy_Gold

(17,865 posts)
16. In defense of hotler -- you're welcome here!
Thu Aug 23, 2018, 06:39 PM
Aug 2018

Discussions in this group have often gone off in different directions. And one of the benefits of DU groups is that members can feel comfortable and protected within them where they would feel more vulnerable in the larger forums.

This is a group, not a forum. Groups often serve as safe havens for members who share similar interests and viewpoints.



Over the years, the Economy Group has discussed just about everything. It's in that "etc." of the group's stated purpose.


Discuss fiscal and economic policy. Budget, taxes, spending, etc.


But here's another thing --

In the Fox & Friends interview aired today, Trump himself brought up the issue of impeachment, claiming that if he were to be impeached, the market would crash and everyone would be poor. Political issues often have direct impacts both positive and negative on the markets and the economy. Is it a stretch to justify discussion of potential impeachment in this group? Maybe. But in the past we've gone much further afield.

THAT ALL BEING SAID, I have to agree that maybe now isn't the best time for Democrats to discuss impeachment as a possibility, especially since Trump himself is bringing the subject up. Let the GOP discuss it, air the pros and cons, take the responsibility for what they've done. Even with successful mid-term elections in November, the Democrats will not have an impeachment-level majority in the Senate.

But the power to investigate, with subpoenas to get testimony and documents, will fall to the Democrats in the House with a flip. That could ultimately lead to the shift toward impeachment support in the Senate. Impeachment then becomes a more valid point for discussion.

I don't run this group; I have no power to shut down a discussion. But I do have the power to support a long-time member of this group and point out how I personally see the subject as perfectly valid, even if I don't 100% agree with hotler. Maybe only 95.4%.

Hotler

(11,437 posts)
17. I didn't say go shout impeachment from the roof tops. Geez.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 09:30 AM
Aug 2018

I just hope for a lot more backbone from the Democratic party than I've seen in the past.

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