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Omaha Steve

(99,707 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:10 AM Jul 2013

Dear David: Underpaid for Overtime




http://blog.workingamerica.org/2013/07/18/dear-david-underpaid-for-overtime/

Question:

Hi, David. I work for a home health care franchise that enables seniors to continue living at home. I’ve been told that since my employers have a “temporary part-time” tax status, they do not have to pay overtime. I work 12 hours daily at least five days a week. Sometimes we have to pick up shifts when other staff “no-show, no-call.” We work in two-week pay periods 120-140 hours and do not get any overtime. We only make $9 per hour. I eagerly await your instructions concerning this matter. Thanks in advance.

— Underpaid for Overtime, Ohio

Answer at link.



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Dear David: Underpaid for Overtime (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2013 OP
That was a surprisingly unhelpful answer Demit Jul 2013 #1
I agree and sent it to Working America Omaha Steve Jul 2013 #2
Not just unhelpful - totally wrong shirah Jul 2013 #4
To your last point, of course it's not bad. Just pie-in-the-sky for this worker right now. Demit Jul 2013 #5
Does he get paid for this advice? Callmecrazy Jul 2013 #3
I can't see any reason for this job to be exempt from overtime pay. Bolo Boffin Jul 2013 #6
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
1. That was a surprisingly unhelpful answer
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 07:39 AM
Jul 2013

First 'David' says he's not really sure what the employer could mean by “temporary part-time tax status” and how it would affect overtime (wouldn't he have some sort of labor background to be answering these questions, so he'd either be familiar with the phrase, or could look into it more easily than the questioner could?) Then he tells her "you’ll probably want to look a little deeper into whether you are covered rather than just taking the employer’s word for it," which is probably what she thought she was doing by asking Working America.

The he tells her that there's another thing she could do! And that is to get together with coworkers and strategize ways to get the employer to meet their interests. Oh, okay, right. The whole answer is so patronizing.

shirah

(1 post)
4. Not just unhelpful - totally wrong
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:57 AM
Jul 2013

The law that governs overtime is the Fair Labor Standards Act. The IRS and tax status has absolutely nothing to do with overtime or wage payments. You can find helpful information about your rights under the FLSA here - http://www.dol.gov/whd/flsa/

State laws can also govern when and how wages must be paid - but not necessarily the amount to be paid. (Although some state minimum wage laws top up the federal minimum wage. The FLSA sets the floor for minimum wage.They cannot decrease the minimum wage.)

The response to the workers getting together about this issue of wage payments is not necessarily a bad one. If the employees do, they might be able to pressure the employer into getting right with the law. Also, that sort of collective action is protected by the National Labor Relations Act. More information here. http://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/employee-rights

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
5. To your last point, of course it's not bad. Just pie-in-the-sky for this worker right now.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jul 2013

Too breezy, too dismissive, altogether. She's working overtime and extra shifts to begin with. Home health care workers all don't work together in the one workplace, you know. They work individually in people's homes. 'David', after a couple of paragraphs of telling her what she already knew, proceeded to give her generic advice that she could have gotten from eHow.com. From a labor expert, it was the equivalent of a brush off.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
3. Does he get paid for this advice?
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 08:27 AM
Jul 2013

If he does, I'm starting my own blog. I'd love to sit at home and give condescending non-answers to people needing information. I wouldn't need to get out of the bed.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
6. I can't see any reason for this job to be exempt from overtime pay.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/fairpay/fs17a_overview.pdf

Even with a job description exemption, you have to be paid on a salary basis, not hourly like these employees. Sounds like someone needs to call a lawyer.

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