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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,513 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:34 AM Apr 2018

Electronics-recycling innovator is going to prison for trying to extend computers' lives

This is an appalling use of prosecutorial resources.



Electronics-recycling innovator is going to prison for trying to extend computers' lives

By WASHINGTON POST

APR 26, 2018 | 1:10 PM

A Southern California man who built a sizable business out of recycling electronic waste is headed to federal prison for 15 months after a federal appeals court in Miami rejected his claim that the "restore discs" he made to extend computers' lives had no financial value, instead ruling that he had infringed on Microsoft Corp. to the tune of $700,000. ... The appeals court upheld a federal district judge's ruling that the discs Eric Lundgren made to restore Microsoft operating systems had a value of $25 apiece, even though the software they contained could be downloaded free and the discs could only be used on computers that already had a valid Microsoft license. The U.S. 11th Circuit Court of Appeals initially granted Lundgren an emergency stay of his prison sentence, shortly before he was to surrender, but then affirmed his original 15-month sentence and $50,000 fine without hearing oral argument in a ruling issued April 11.

Lundgren, 33, has become a renowned innovator in the field of electronic waste, or e-waste, using discarded parts to do things such as construct an electric car, which in a test far outdistanced a Tesla on a single charge. He built the first "electronic hybrid recycling" facility in the United States, which turns discarded cellphones and other electronics into functional devices, slowing the stream of harmful chemicals and metals contained in those devices into landfills and the environment. His Chatsworth company, IT Asset Partners, processes more than 41 million pounds of e-waste each year and counts IBM, Motorola and Sprint among its clients. ... "This is a difficult sentencing," U.S. District Judge Daniel T.K. Hurley told him last year, "because I credit everything you are telling me. You are a very remarkable person."

Before he launched IT Asset Partners, Lundgren lived in China learning about the stream of e-waste, and also finding ways to send cheap parts to the U.S. to keep electronics running. One of his projects was to manufacture thousands of "restore discs," supplied by computer makers as a way for users to restore Windows software to a hard drive if it crashes or must be erased. The discs can only be used on a computer that already has a license for the Windows operating system, and the license transfers with the computer for its full life span. But computer owners often lose or throw out the discs, and though the operating system can be downloaded free on a licensed computer, Lundgren realized that many people didn't feel competent to do that, and were simply throwing out their computers and buying new ones.

Lundgren had 28,000 of the discs made and shipped to a broker in Florida. Their plan was to sell the discs to computer refurbishing shops for about 25 cents apiece, so the refurbishers could provide the discs to used-computer buyers and wouldn't have to take the time to create the discs themselves. And the new user might be able to use the disc to keep their computer going the next time a problem occurred. ... But in 2012, U.S. Customs officers seized a shipment of discs and began investigating. The discs were never sold. Eventually, the Florida broker, Robert Wolff, called Lundgren and offered to buy the discs himself as part of a government sting, Lundgren said. Wolff sent Lundgren $3,400 and the conspiracy was cemented. Both were indicted on a charge of conspiracy to traffic in counterfeit goods and criminal copyright infringement. Wolff made a plea deal and received a sentence of six months of home arrest.
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Electronics-recycling innovator is going to prison for trying to extend computers' lives (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2018 OP
Wow....such a shame re. Lundgren... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #1
Sounds like a setup to me. defacto7 Apr 2018 #2
This is one of those stories I barely understand mountain grammy Apr 2018 #3
Justice is blind ... GeorgeGist Apr 2018 #4
Sounds like the courts need to catch up with technology. Canoe52 Apr 2018 #5
It's possible to be brilliant one day, and an idiot the next. hunter May 2018 #6
Thanks for the insight. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #7

SWBTATTReg

(22,143 posts)
1. Wow....such a shame re. Lundgren...
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:57 AM
Apr 2018

And we do need folks like Lundgren to help reduce the clutter out of our landfills...

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
2. Sounds like a setup to me.
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:41 PM
Apr 2018

I don’t get the point of the charges. If this was for profit the price would be higher than 25 cents a disk which is close to the cost to break even. This is over a few hundred bucks? I think it's an industry scheme to undermine computer recycling. What a shame. What a waste.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
3. This is one of those stories I barely understand
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 02:09 PM
Apr 2018

so I’ll just kick it..sounds very wrong to my non legal mind.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
6. It's possible to be brilliant one day, and an idiot the next.
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:04 AM
May 2018

What was he thinking? Did he expect Microsoft would ignore him because he's a good guy?

I've worked for groups that are willing to jump through the hoops Microsoft requires of refurbishers. If you install Microsoft software on refurbished computers they expect you to follow their rules.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/mssmallbiz/2011/10/05/looking-to-provide-refurbished-pcs-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-microsoft-refurbisher-program/

Personally, I won't touch Microsoft or Apple products anymore unless someone is paying me. I can make as many Linux "restore" DVDs or USB drives as I like. I can install Linux on as many machines as I like. I can install Chrome or Firefox on as many machines as I like. I can install LibreOffice on as many machines as I like.

Most people only use the browser anyways.

I've been losing enthusiasm for old desktop computers because most are energy hogs and may be better off dead. I think "How much coal or natural gas will be burned if I restore this thing?" vs. "How much coal does it take to make a new fanless laptop, tablet, or even a Raspberry Pi?"

It's as if you had old cars that got 20 miles per gallon vs. new cars that got 100 miles per gallon.

I quit repairing CRT monitors and televisions for similar reasons.

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