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Related: About this forumSucking carbon dioxide from air is cheaper than scientists thought
This artist's rendering shows Carbon Engineering's design for an 'air contactor' to pull carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.credit: Carbon Engineering
Siphoning carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere could be more than an expensive last-ditch strategy for averting climate catastrophe. A detailed economic analysis published on 7 June suggests that the geoengineering technology is inching closer to commercial viability.
The study, in Joule, was written by researchers at Carbon Engineering in Calgary, Canada, which has been operating a pilot CO2-extraction plant in British Columbia since 2015. That plant based on a concept called direct air capture provided the basis for the economic analysis, which includes cost estimates from commercial vendors of all of the major components. Depending on a variety of design options and economic assumptions, the cost of pulling a tonne of CO2 from the atmosphere ranges between US$94 and $232. The last comprehensive analysis of the technology, conducted by the American Physical Society in 2011, estimated that it would cost $600 per tonne.
Carbon Engineering says that it published the paper to advance discussions about the cost and potential of the technology. Were really trying to commercialize direct air capture in a serious way, and to do that, you have to have everybody in the supply chain on board, says David Keith, acting chief scientist at Carbon Engineering and a climate physicist at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)we are now only $4 Trillion a year away from neutral CO2 (no MORE CO2 than present at the time of construction of untold thousands of these carbon sink machines). Maybe $5T a year to reduce carbon back to 1970 levels.
expensive... around a $10,000 a year tax on every carbon user in the world ( WAG because I don't how many people live in a carbon producing lifestyle) - could be less.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)over the course of many years.
Maybe it can be a global effort starting in 2050 and lasting for 50-100 years. In the mean time, we should strive to reduce carbon emissions to 90 percent less than 1990 levels by the time that 2050 arrives.
Throck
(2,520 posts)progressoid
(49,991 posts)Delmette2.0
(4,166 posts)What to we use all that carbon for once it is removed from the air?
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)seriously, the uses of carbon nanotubes have only started to be explored
caraher
(6,278 posts)Which makes the process at best carbon neutral, depending on the energy source they use to capture the carbon.
hunter
(38,317 posts)This process uses 366 kilowatt hours per ton of carbon dioxide extracted.
Then you use more energy to turn that carbon dioxide into fuel.
After we quit fossil fuels this might be a useful thing, but until then it's just more wishful thinking.
The only way to quit fossil fuels is to quit fossil fuels.
In any case, I should've used a catchier title...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127117756
NNadir
(33,525 posts)The question of whether or not this is a perpetual motion machine depends on the source of energy.