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hatrack

(59,574 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 10:15 PM Jul 2018

Genuinely Alarming Inflow At Big Western Reservoirs - Powell 7/10/18 - 460 cfs

Going back five years for the same date:

7/10/17 - 4092 cfs
7/10/16 - 18,148 cfs
7/10/15 - 21,055 cfs
7/10/14 - 14,062 cfs
7/10/13 - 14,404 cfs

Lake Navajo (San Juan River):
7/11/18 - 21 cfs

Mead is now about 14 inches above 1075, which is the level at which delivery cutbacks begin, if it holds at or below that level through the end of the year.

Interesting times . . .

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

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Genuinely Alarming Inflow At Big Western Reservoirs - Powell 7/10/18 - 460 cfs (Original Post) hatrack Jul 2018 OP
Appears the flows will Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #1
And let's not forget the Saudi-owned hay farms on the banks of the sunny Colorado! hatrack Jul 2018 #2
Yes sir,256k acres Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #3
Is this the river walk you're talking about... hunter Jul 2018 #5
You got it. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #6
When I was a kid, before the Central Arizona Project, we had family in Phoenix. hunter Jul 2018 #7
Sorry misspelled Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #8
About 38% of Arizona's water comes from the Colorado dbackjon Jul 2018 #10
Here in the Vegas Valley we Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #11
Would be helpful to spell the names right if you are going to be insulting... dbackjon Jul 2018 #9
Water use is the same, but water availability is dropping NickB79 Jul 2018 #12
Holy shit! mountain grammy Jul 2018 #4
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Appears the flows will
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jul 2018

continue to drop. No major Rains on the Western Slops of the Rockies. And it takes about 2 months for West slope water to hit Powell.

But,got to keep the Salt River at bank full in order to keep the Tourist Riverwalk. Oh,forgot,Tuscon and all that Alfalfa along the border nice and green. China needs their Nice USA grown Alfalfa. BTW,same goes for the Green River Valley hay fields owned by China.

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
2. And let's not forget the Saudi-owned hay farms on the banks of the sunny Colorado!
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jul 2018

Those cows in the the Empty Quarter aren't going to feed themselves, y'know. But with massively subsidized irrigation water, no problemo!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Yes sir,256k acres
Thu Jul 12, 2018, 11:18 PM
Jul 2018

just south of Lake Havasue on the California side. Plus all the water rights for overhead boom irrigation.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
5. Is this the river walk you're talking about...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.visitphoenix.com/learn-plan/phx-stories/canal-walks/

I'm not someone who thinks every last drop of water should be put in a pipe and used for some "practical" purpose.

I'd complain about the factory farm dairy industry first.

Here in California I hear people begrudging the little trickle of water that keeps the San Joaquin River flowing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Joaquin_River


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. You got it.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jul 2018

Part of the Salt River Water Reclamation Project. Couple of Corp rations who backed this,Peabody Coal and MRG energy. The Power Plant at Page(Navajo station ) was constructed to operate the Massive Water Pumps two main Pipelines. One to Laughlin Nv to carry Coal Slurry to a Power plant near lake Mojave which has since been shut down. And Pipeline two is to carry water for Pheniox and Tuscon via the dry wash called Salt River.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
7. When I was a kid, before the Central Arizona Project, we had family in Phoenix.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:35 PM
Jul 2018

I recall the Salt River canals were full in the summer, thanks to the monsoon.

Certain neighborhoods and orchards were flood irrigated, my great aunt and uncle's included.

The rapid growth of suburbs, made possible by Colorado River water, has made the place unrecognizable, just as it did my Southern California home town.

Southern California, Arizona, and Nevada are about to learn the hard way that development largely dependent on Colorado River water was a bad idea.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Sorry misspelled
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 03:44 PM
Jul 2018

the name of the Power Company,should be NRG which was a new entity of NSP of Minneapolis Mn,which is now called Excel Energy .

Interesting how the Idea of Water in the Desert is a marvelous wonder,turned into a Real Estate Developers Trillion dollars payday.













































 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
10. About 38% of Arizona's water comes from the Colorado
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:51 PM
Jul 2018

And a good portion of that is injected into the aquifers.

72% of Arizona's water usage is for ag, much of it wasteful.

While Arizona can do better, we are far ahead of CA and NV when it comes to wise water usage.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Here in the Vegas Valley we
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 07:03 PM
Jul 2018

water usage has been cut significantly. The sad part is the Irrigation consumption at the Southern tip of Clark County. Chinese and Saudi owned Hay operations. What a waste of Water. Last smart water letter has Vegas using the same amount per household or less than Phoenix. Appears we are near the 70% Zero landscape meaning no lawns.

In fact,the Water district is offing 3 dollars a foot to pull your lawns and convert to rock landscaping.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
9. Would be helpful to spell the names right if you are going to be insulting...
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jul 2018

Tempe Town Lake is a great success - returning water to what once was a flowing river. It has redeveloped a forgotten area in the heart of the Valley, and thus controlling sprawl.

THE CAP takes water from the Colorado via aqueduct. Nowhere does it use the Salt River (which isn't dry everywhere along it's course).

Water usage now in Arizona is basically the same as it was in 1957

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
12. Water use is the same, but water availability is dropping
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 10:02 AM
Jul 2018

And will continue to drop in the future as the climate warms.

And in the meantime, the state's population continues to grow rapidly.

Something's going to give, and when it does it won't be pretty.

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