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Related: About this forumFacebook Will Have Weekly Standard, Heritage Foundation "Fact Checking" Climate Science News
Fuck Mark Zuckerberg, fuck Facebook.EDIT
After Zuckerberg got slammed for his version of the there are good people on both sides argument (Ed. re. Holocaust denial), he tried to clean it up in an email to Recode asserting, that he absolutely didnt intend to defend the intent of people who deny that.
But then he went on to say (emphasis added):
Our goal with fake news is not to prevent anyone from saying something untrue but to stop fake news and misinformation spreading across our services. If something is spreading and is rated false by fact checkers, it would lose the vast majority of its distribution in News Feed. And of course if a post crossed line into advocating for violence or hate against a particular group, it would be removed. These issues are very challenging but I believe that often the best way to fight offensive bad speech is with good speech.
There are two fatal flaws in Zuckerbergs plan.
First, it crucially relies on having unbiased fact checkers. But Facebook has already announced that leading climate science deniers will be fact checking Facebook (The Weekly Standard) and policing it for bias (The Heritage Foundation). This is indeed the fox guarding the hen house. Or, in this case, Fox News is guarding the greenhouse since last week Facebook revealed it intends to bring its users a great deal of content from that anti-science cable channel.
Second, the social science literature is quite clear that the best way to fight fake news is, first, dont expose people to it at all and, second. if you insist on exposing readers to lies, then you need to keep the lies to a minimum while repeatedly exposing them to the truth.
EDIT
https://thinkprogress.org/zuckerberg-clarification-shows-facebook-wont-stop-climate-denial-fd38fbc45cd4/
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)Stop acting you care, Z
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)2 years ago, when I submitted an official letter of concern about fake news/ads to Facebook's feedback forum, it was censored. Why? Because I mentioned that if Zuckerberg had finished college instead of racing whole hog into making money, he would understand the social and cultural effects of his actions.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,155 posts)I don't use it, never did, never will. There are similar platforms.
thucythucy
(8,050 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)Freethinker65
(10,018 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,454 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)likely played a part in magnifying it - did the russians use early facebook to spread "climategate" then, to save putin billions in oil revenue in peril from climate change action from obama in copenhagen?
what a fucking joke. they, especially heritage, are major creators and spreaders of fake news
heritage has been a godfather of fake news by putting out 'research' and publishing bullshit and guests for feeding guys like limbaugh on RW talk radio
what a joke
here's a tip for facebook - study talk radio instead of spending huge money with researchers and AI algorithms. just transcribe the major national and local blowhards on those 1500 radio stations and search for patterns - it's full of fake news and probably getting fed by the russians and the kremlin's probably been putting callers on shows like limbaugh - and it would be a lot cheaper
maybe put all those transcripts in a publicly available database in some form that doesn't break copyright rules or at the least accumulate it at facebook - just search for major meme repetition and know that that is 'fake news' and the russians will weaponize it even if they didn't help create it in the first place by paying guys like limbaugh and hannity to jumpstart it - like when limbaugh created "climategate"
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I use Facebook only to keep in touch with activity by my friends and family.
I don't understand why anyone would use it as a 'news source'.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Facebook had created a panel of editors to review news. One panelist (out of 9, I think) had donated to Democratic candidates in the past and Republicans raised such a furor over her that they disbanded the panel...
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)on one's Home page. It is ALWAYS a bunch of right-wing crap videos.
FUCK that POS site.
lancelyons
(988 posts)If Facebook is lost to Right WIng.... Then we have lost.
It makes a big difference what people see on a daily basis. People might spend 30-60 min a day on facebook.
You cant knock on thier doors enough to compensate.
lancelyons
(988 posts)I cant believe this is true. Facebook is picking 2 conservative organizations to fact check?
Is this true?
I could understand if it where 2 on the left and 2 on the right.. that had some credibility.
Puzzler
(2,505 posts)-Puzzler
moonseller66
(430 posts)and the difference between Fox news and FB News is...what?
Just how many get their ONLY news from FB and question nothing?
(Stupid American Public)
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Never used it.
lancelyons
(988 posts)Here is facebooks approach on 3rd party fact checkers
https://www.facebook.com/help/publisher/182222309230722