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hatrack

(59,585 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 07:11 AM Jul 2018

Facebook Will Have Weekly Standard, Heritage Foundation "Fact Checking" Climate Science News

Fuck Mark Zuckerberg, fuck Facebook.

EDIT

After Zuckerberg got slammed for his version of the “there are good people on both sides” argument (Ed. re. Holocaust denial), he tried to clean it up in an email to Recode asserting, that he “absolutely didn’t intend to defend the intent of people who deny that.”

But then he went on to say (emphasis added):

Our goal with fake news is not to prevent anyone from saying something untrue — but to stop fake news and misinformation spreading across our services. If something is spreading and is rated false by fact checkers, it would lose the vast majority of its distribution in News Feed. And of course if a post crossed line into advocating for violence or hate against a particular group, it would be removed. These issues are very challenging but I believe that often the best way to fight offensive bad speech is with good speech.

There are two fatal flaws in Zuckerberg’s plan.

First, it crucially relies on having unbiased fact checkers. But Facebook has already announced that leading climate science deniers will be fact checking Facebook (The Weekly Standard) and policing it for bias (The Heritage Foundation). This is indeed the fox guarding the hen house. Or, in this case, Fox News is guarding the greenhouse — since last week Facebook revealed it intends to bring its users a great deal of content from that anti-science cable channel.

Second, the social science literature is quite clear that the best way to fight fake news is, first, don’t expose people to it at all and, second. if you insist on exposing readers to lies, then you need to keep the lies to a minimum while repeatedly exposing them to the truth.

EDIT

https://thinkprogress.org/zuckerberg-clarification-shows-facebook-wont-stop-climate-denial-fd38fbc45cd4/
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Facebook Will Have Weekly Standard, Heritage Foundation "Fact Checking" Climate Science News (Original Post) hatrack Jul 2018 OP
C'mon man! roscoeroscoe Jul 2018 #1
Oh, he cares... about his reputation DemocracyMouse Jul 2018 #16
And still people use Facebook and put money in his pocket. Squinch Jul 2018 #2
He's so full of shit. How about having 'Media Matters' check it. Oh, who cares F..Facebook YOHABLO Jul 2018 #3
Facebook should go the way of MySpace bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #4
Which platforms do you recommend? nt thucythucy Jul 2018 #7
Facebook is garbage. eShirl Jul 2018 #5
Do NOT get your news from Facebook!!! Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #6
Reason 9,623 to dump FB. sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #8
limbaugh started "climategate" from a russian hack in 2009 and orgs like heritage certainot Jul 2018 #9
I do not read "news" on Facebook left-of-center2012 Jul 2018 #10
Back in 2015 NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #11
You know that stupid Facebook Watch sidebar Liberalagogo Jul 2018 #12
If Facebook is lost to Right WIng.... Then we have lost. lancelyons Jul 2018 #14
I cant believe this is true. Facebook is picking 2 conservative organizations to fact check? lancelyons Jul 2018 #13
Fuck him!!! Puzzler Jul 2018 #15
For the SAPs moonseller66 Jul 2018 #17
What's a facebook? defacto7 Jul 2018 #18
This could be a fake or misleading story. lancelyons Jul 2018 #19

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
16. Oh, he cares... about his reputation
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:13 AM
Jul 2018

2 years ago, when I submitted an official letter of concern about fake news/ads to Facebook's feedback forum, it was censored. Why? Because I mentioned that if Zuckerberg had finished college instead of racing whole hog into making money, he would understand the social and cultural effects of his actions.

bucolic_frolic

(43,155 posts)
4. Facebook should go the way of MySpace
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 08:00 AM
Jul 2018

I don't use it, never did, never will. There are similar platforms.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
9. limbaugh started "climategate" from a russian hack in 2009 and orgs like heritage
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 08:48 AM
Jul 2018

likely played a part in magnifying it - did the russians use early facebook to spread "climategate" then, to save putin billions in oil revenue in peril from climate change action from obama in copenhagen?

what a fucking joke. they, especially heritage, are major creators and spreaders of fake news

heritage has been a godfather of fake news by putting out 'research' and publishing bullshit and guests for feeding guys like limbaugh on RW talk radio

what a joke

here's a tip for facebook - study talk radio instead of spending huge money with researchers and AI algorithms. just transcribe the major national and local blowhards on those 1500 radio stations and search for patterns - it's full of fake news and probably getting fed by the russians and the kremlin's probably been putting callers on shows like limbaugh - and it would be a lot cheaper

maybe put all those transcripts in a publicly available database in some form that doesn't break copyright rules or at the least accumulate it at facebook - just search for major meme repetition and know that that is 'fake news' and the russians will weaponize it even if they didn't help create it in the first place by paying guys like limbaugh and hannity to jumpstart it - like when limbaugh created "climategate"

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. I do not read "news" on Facebook
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:16 AM
Jul 2018

I use Facebook only to keep in touch with activity by my friends and family.

I don't understand why anyone would use it as a 'news source'.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. Back in 2015
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:20 AM
Jul 2018

Facebook had created a panel of editors to review news. One panelist (out of 9, I think) had donated to Democratic candidates in the past and Republicans raised such a furor over her that they disbanded the panel...

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
12. You know that stupid Facebook Watch sidebar
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jul 2018

on one's Home page. It is ALWAYS a bunch of right-wing crap videos.

FUCK that POS site.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
14. If Facebook is lost to Right WIng.... Then we have lost.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jul 2018

If Facebook is lost to Right WIng.... Then we have lost.

It makes a big difference what people see on a daily basis. People might spend 30-60 min a day on facebook.

You cant knock on thier doors enough to compensate.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
13. I cant believe this is true. Facebook is picking 2 conservative organizations to fact check?
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jul 2018

I cant believe this is true. Facebook is picking 2 conservative organizations to fact check?

Is this true?

I could understand if it where 2 on the left and 2 on the right.. that had some credibility.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
17. For the SAPs
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 10:42 AM
Jul 2018

and the difference between Fox news and FB News is...what?

Just how many get their ONLY news from FB and question nothing?

(Stupid American Public)

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