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Dept. of Energy Releases Report on Economic & National Security Impacts of Hydraulic Fracturing Ban (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 OP
This is the kind of crap that comes out of Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #1
It would be interesting to ban fracking to demonstrate just how worthless... NNadir Jan 2021 #2
Seems like a bit of a leap to label fracking "renewable energy" nam78_two Jan 2021 #3
In my considered opinion, so called "renewable energy" is nothing more than lipstick on... NNadir Jan 2021 #4
Thanks for the info.nt nam78_two Jan 2021 #5

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
1. This is the kind of crap that comes out of
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jan 2021

agencies headed by people who should never have been appointed to those positions. It’s going to be so nice to have qualified people in charge again.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
2. It would be interesting to ban fracking to demonstrate just how worthless...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 05:30 AM
Jan 2021

...so called "renewable energy" is after half a century of wild cheering for it and vast sums of money spent on it.

nam78_two

(14,529 posts)
3. Seems like a bit of a leap to label fracking "renewable energy"
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:58 AM
Jan 2021
https://www.kcet.org/redefine/can-fracking-be-considered-renewable-energy

But can natural gas, made extremely inexpensive these days by the process of hydraulic fracturing, really be considered "renewable"?

The easy answer is "no." Natural gas as produced from wells, fracked or otherwise, is a fossil fuel. Burning it adds carbon dioxide to the atmosphere that wasn't there before. And the process of fracking adds another dimension to the non-renewablility of the end product: if you destroy groundwater and other aspects of the landscape in order to get your fuel, then you probably shouldn't call that fuel renewable even if it's completely carbon-free.


Oh, I suppose you mean that without it as a backup, the renewable energy industry would be hobbled?

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
4. In my considered opinion, so called "renewable energy" is nothing more than lipstick on...
Wed Jan 20, 2021, 12:16 PM
Jan 2021

...on the fracking pig.

In terms of energy produced, albeit not in terms of the lie that peak capacity is the same as energy, the so called "renewable energy" industry as represented by the trillion dollar wind and solar industry, is trivial and useless.

A 1000 MW plant that can only operate 20% - and not even in synchrony with demand - is really a 200 MW plant, at best, and a zero MW plant if it's producing excess electricity when no one can use it. Moreover, by eroding the capacity utilization of reliable plants, in an arbitrary and unplanned way, it drives up the overall cost of energy, and increases the per MWh emissions.

Without back up from dangerous fossil fuels the so called "renewable energy" industry would be exposed as that famous Emperor lacking garments.

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