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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:31 PM Feb 2021

Amazon Moves On Its Largest Renewable Project. Thank you Jeff Bezos

Amazon Moves On Its Largest Renewable Project
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Amazon-Moves-On-Its-Largest-Renewable-Project.html

Amazon (NASDAQ: AMZN) has reached a deal for its largest renewable energy project yet—one that will allow it to purchase 380 MW of wind energy.

Hollandse Kust Noord—a wind farm in the Netherlands currently being developed by The Crosswind—will supply the power through a project known as the Amazon-Shell HKN Offshore Wind Project.

The CrossWind is a consortium made up of oil giant Royal Dutch Shell and Mitsubishi subsidiary Eneco.


The project is still under development and is not expected to be complete until 2023. It will have a total capacity of 759 MW, generating at least 3.3 TWh per year.

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Wind farms are notoriously sporadic, producing electricity not in even measure but with peaks and valleys.
This wind farm project will include a floating solar park, short-term battery storage, turbines tuned to the network so they don’t interfere with each other, and green hydrogen as a storage technique—the combination of which the consortium hopes will provide more continuous power supply, North American WindPower reported last year
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*****

THIS is a innovative example of how we begin to build sustainable energy sources throughout the world, while developing & applying research that bypasses the limits of any one individual clean resource.

Interesting and encouraging to see clean climate being taken to the next level.


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Amazon Moves On Its Largest Renewable Project. Thank you Jeff Bezos (Original Post) Budi Feb 2021 OP
Good move. Lunabell Feb 2021 #1
Bezos is no longer CEO. Budi Feb 2021 #2
This was towards Amazon. Lunabell Feb 2021 #3
So was this post about the ingenuity of 'The Crosswind' Budi Feb 2021 #4
What's your point? Lunabell Feb 2021 #5
The point is the nature of the article. Budi Feb 2021 #6
Oh I'm sure he has no more input Bradshaw3 Feb 2021 #7
Ya, who cares about global climate anyway. Just hate Bezos. Budi Feb 2021 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #19
The OP is in the Energy Forum because it's the subject of the article Budi Feb 2021 #20
Bezos wasn't even mentioned in the OP and was just casually referred to in the linked article..... George II Feb 2021 #10
You didn't read the article did you. No where does it address what the cost was to Bezos Budi Feb 2021 #12
You didn't read what I wrote, did you? Bradshaw3 Feb 2021 #18
I did read what you wrote & chose to 🙄 since it's off topic for the Energy Forum Budi Feb 2021 #21
Unbelievable that a good news story about something positive being done has to be pissed on.... George II Feb 2021 #9
Thanks. How can anyone diss the global climate innovation of this Project. Budi Feb 2021 #11
I am amazed also Gothmog Feb 2021 #13
This is good news. brer cat Feb 2021 #14
Wind energy isn't going to save the world. hunter Feb 2021 #15
"What it will do is ensure our dependency on natural gas power plants" -- No it won't progree Feb 2021 #16
Thank you! I found this part especially encouraging too, from an ... Budi Feb 2021 #17
Europe has an extensive network of transmission lines Finishline42 Feb 2021 #22
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. So was this post about the ingenuity of 'The Crosswind'
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:43 PM
Feb 2021

Andy Jassy is the guy to address the worker conditions.

Bezos has moved on to saving the planet from a climate disaster while there's still time.

Lunabell

(6,088 posts)
5. What's your point?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:47 PM
Feb 2021

Amazon still sux. And also the ffs part was uncalled for and particularly hateful. And on further edit, what the hell did BILLIONAIRE ever help his workers when he was ceo. He's no damned hero for one act.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. The point is the nature of the article.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:07 PM
Feb 2021

Wind farms are notoriously sporadic, producing electricity not in even measure but with peaks and valleys.
This wind farm project will include a floating solar park, short-term battery storage, turbines tuned to the network so they don’t interfere with each other, and green hydrogen as a storage technique—the combination of which the consortium hopes will provide more continuous power supply,

It is the BILLIONARE Bezos & the Companies who have the financial resources to further this innovation to a global reality

The article had NOTHING to do with the business of Amozon.

But hang on that, rather than appreciate the advancment of this amazing push forward to shift away from fossil fuels.


This IS the Energy forum isn't it?


Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
7. Oh I'm sure he has no more input
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:27 PM
Feb 2021

Just like he didn't before.

The hero worship of CEOs who treat their workers like shit and then spend a fraction on projects like this or charity is pretty disgusting.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
8. Ya, who cares about global climate anyway. Just hate Bezos.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:45 PM
Feb 2021

That'll solve the crisis!!
Yup. Whoo boy !!

Thanks for stopping by the Energy Forum.



Response to Budi (Reply #8)

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
20. The OP is in the Energy Forum because it's the subject of the article
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:35 AM
Feb 2021


The rest of your comments seem rather accusatory & personal.
I'd feel less threatened by just puttiing your name on ignore & being done with you.




George II

(67,782 posts)
10. Bezos wasn't even mentioned in the OP and was just casually referred to in the linked article.....
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:57 PM
Feb 2021

Nor was there ANY "worship of CEOs" mentioned in either.

Where in the world does this "hero worship of CEOs" business come from?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. You didn't read the article did you. No where does it address what the cost was to Bezos
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:22 PM
Feb 2021

There's NO mention of what" fraction" was spent on this project by Bezos.

But you're certain. 🤔

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
18. You didn't read what I wrote, did you?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 10:09 PM
Feb 2021

I wrote about "CEOS" - as in plural, as in a generic statement about them. I wasn't addressing this project in particular but in general how some will take something this and act as if what they have done before isn't relevant. It clearly is, unless one is overcome by hero worship, or some other factor that prevents rational discussion.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. I did read what you wrote & chose to 🙄 since it's off topic for the Energy Forum
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 08:55 AM
Feb 2021

I can't help you with your personal issues for Bezos.
There are people who can somewhere,, I'm sure.
Perhaps if you can focus on the innovative work being done by The Crosswind & less on the trigger word 'Bezos', you may see the possibilities in this project. It is quite a promising venture for the future of Clean Climate.
Here. Maybe re-read this paragraph since it is the gist of the article.

This is the most exciting part of the article:

Wind farms are notoriously sporadic, producing electricity not in even measure but with peaks and valleys.
This wind farm project will include a floating solar park, short-term battery storage, turbines tuned to the network so they don’t interfere with each other, and green hydrogen as a storage technique—the combination of which the consortium hopes will provide more continuous power supply,


George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Unbelievable that a good news story about something positive being done has to be pissed on....
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:54 PM
Feb 2021

....almost immediately after it's posted.

It took me more than four minutes to read your OP and refer back to the article. Yet a negative response took even less time.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. Thanks. How can anyone diss the global climate innovation of this Project.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 06:15 PM
Feb 2021

It is so future fowrard in advancement of combining resources to make a far more functional product. In time this hopefully can become a model for around the world.

Hollandse Kust Noord—a wind farm in the Netherlands currently being developed by The Crosswind

THIS is the coolest innovation.
It's impressive & will be interesting to watch as they develop this technology for efficiency in the future.

Wind farms are notoriously sporadic, producing electricity not in even measure but with peaks and valleys.
This wind farm project will include a floating solar park, short-term battery storage, turbines tuned to the network so they don’t interfere with each other, and green hydrogen as a storage technique—the combination of which the consortium hopes will provide more continuous power supply,


Bravo ~

hunter

(38,317 posts)
15. Wind energy isn't going to save the world.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 07:53 PM
Feb 2021

What it will do is ensure our dependency on natural gas power plants whenever the wind isn't blowing.

I hate wind turbines. Natural gas is only slightly less vile than coal, especially since it is cheap and there's more than enough in the ground to destroy what's left of the natural environment as we know it. The best thing to do with natural gas is leave it in the ground. If we do that wind energy is useless.

An economy powered entirely by wind, solar, and other renewable energy systems would look nothing like the society many affluent people now enjoy. It's possible such an economy couldn't even feed and shelter the current population of humans.

progree

(10,909 posts)
16. "What it will do is ensure our dependency on natural gas power plants" -- No it won't
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:06 PM
Feb 2021
What it will do is ensure our dependency on natural gas power plants whenever the wind isn't blowing.


This is pure B.S. Hunter. And you apparently missed the part of the OP on battery and hydrogen storage.

We've been through this before, many times. Just to take a couple such examples.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127137444
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127139858

If it wasn't for wind and solar, there would be MORE MWh generated from fossil fuel, not less.

I was an electrical engineer working in an electric utility in generation planning and superintendent in operational planning. But one doesn't need that experience or degree to know this.

And don't give me a lot of bubbly boo about the safe cheap modular nuclear designs just around the corner. We canNOT afford to wait and wait and wait for them. We really can't wait. I've been hearing a lot of wild cheering and bubbly boo about them for more than 50 years. But so far lots of "hat" but no cattle.

When those fantastic nukes come along, realize they are being designed to work well with heavily wind- and solar- systems, at least from what I've read from NuScale and Terrapower.
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
17. Thank you! I found this part especially encouraging too, from an ...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:35 PM
Feb 2021

..innovative point.

Wind farms are notoriously sporadic, producing electricity not in even measure but with peaks and valleys.
This wind farm project will include a floating solar park, short-term battery storage, turbines tuned to the network so they don’t interfere with each other, and green hydrogen as a storage technique—the combination of which the consortium hopes will provide more continuous power supply,

Will be exciting to see how this creative approach evolves a year or 2 from now.


Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
22. Europe has an extensive network of transmission lines
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 02:57 PM
Feb 2021

The wind is always blowing and the sun is always shinning somewhere so having transmission lines to send electricity to where it's needed is one of the main spokes of the wheel.

edited to add link to map of transmission lines in Europe.

https://www.entsoe.eu/data/map/

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