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OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 10:25 AM Sep 2021

Today, Lake Powell will drop below 30% of capacity (currently 30.01%)

Last edited Mon Sep 27, 2021, 06:02 PM - Edit history (1)

The last time it was this low was April 13, 1969, when the reservoir was still being filled.

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/
http://lakepowell.water-data.com/index2.php?as_of=1969-04-13

On edit: I just looked it up and NOAA are forecasting a 70-80% chance of La Nina reforming this winter. That means the likelihood of the southwest drought persisting into next year is high again. No relief in sight for Lake Powell or Mead (which is only at 34.8% of capacity).

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/enso_evolution-status-fcsts-web.pdf

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Today, Lake Powell will drop below 30% of capacity (currently 30.01%) (Original Post) OnlinePoker Sep 2021 OP
People who depend on the water may want to get out Moostache Sep 2021 #1
It will hit agricultural users dependent upon cheap, often subsidized, water the hardest. hunter Sep 2021 #3
Farming contributes $23 billion to the AZ economy NickB79 Sep 2021 #4
Out of $321 billion GSP in 2020 . . . . hatrack Sep 2021 #5
Yeah, but it has a disproportionate effect in rural areas NickB79 Sep 2021 #6
That's what happened in the Middle East Finishline42 Sep 2021 #7
Blub . . . . blub . . . . blub . . . . hatrack Sep 2021 #2

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. People who depend on the water may want to get out
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 11:01 AM
Sep 2021

The entire charade of living in the desert is going to crash and burn the region very soon.

I would get out while the getting is good because this has no plan b....

hunter

(38,311 posts)
3. It will hit agricultural users dependent upon cheap, often subsidized, water the hardest.
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 04:26 PM
Sep 2021

Water still flows uphill to money, and urban users still have money.

Cities like Phoenix or Las Vegas are not going to dry up and blow away in the dust. They'll probably end up buying Colorado river water that California cities and farms are now entitled to, in effect paying California cities to switch to toilet-to-tap sewage recycling schemes and desalinization projects, and buying out or bankrupting farmers. It's already happening to a limited extent.

Whatever factory farm meat and dairy producers think, their industries are not essential to the survival of cities.




NickB79

(19,233 posts)
4. Farming contributes $23 billion to the AZ economy
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 05:31 PM
Sep 2021
https://agriculture.az.gov/plantsproduce/what-we-grow/arizona-agriculture-growing

The cities aren't going to blow away, but the state's economy will take a major hit. Expect a flood of unemployed rural citizens to hit the cities, straining the social safety nets.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
6. Yeah, but it has a disproportionate effect in rural areas
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 07:19 PM
Sep 2021

It's what hundreds of thousands of people rely on in rural communities to survive where the cost of living is lower.

The farms die, the small town businesses that rely on their income die. The tax base for the local school, police, fire department dry up. Residents leave, or at best their kids leave after high school. You end up with ghost towns, vast areas depopulated.

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
7. That's what happened in the Middle East
Mon Sep 27, 2021, 09:37 PM
Sep 2021

in countries like Syria and Iraq, drought killed off the rural lifestyle of sustainable living forcing more and more people into the cities.

How much of that dynamic led to more civil unrest?

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