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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 09:46 PM Dec 2021

In significant climate change action, New York City bans new gas hookups

In a landmark moment for the effort to combat climate change, the New York City Council voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday to ban gas hookups in new buildings. The new law, which New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio will sign, bans new gas stoves, boilers and heaters in new buildings and buildings that undergo gut renovations.

“We’re making it clear that the next generation of buildings will be electric buildings,” Ben Furnas, de Blasio’s director of climate and sustainability, told Yahoo News. “We’re sending a message to the world that if you can do it here, you can do it anywhere.”

New York is the largest city in the United States and by far the largest in the country to adopt a ban on new gas hookups. Previously, only a handful of cities on the West Coast, such as San Jose and Berkeley in California, had such policies in place.

“This is a very big deal. The places that have done this already don’t have four seasons, and they don’t build as big,” Furnas noted.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/in-significant-climate-change-action-new-york-city-bans-new-gas-hookups-173727046.html

I think Seattle has the same rule from what my sister tells me.

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In significant climate change action, New York City bans new gas hookups (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2021 OP
How does this help if the electricity is still generated using fossil fuels? TygrBright Dec 2021 #1
From the article cited in the OP: Jim__ Dec 2021 #2
If I were an investor I'd start buying up gas-capable buildings. TygrBright Dec 2021 #3
Do they have any idea at all how electricity is generated for New York City? NNadir Dec 2021 #4

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
1. How does this help if the electricity is still generated using fossil fuels?
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 09:57 PM
Dec 2021

Most gas appliances are actually pretty energy-efficient compared to similar electric appliances with the power generated from coal.

Do they want people installing propane tanks to cook with?

confusedly,
Bright

Jim__

(14,082 posts)
2. From the article cited in the OP:
Thu Dec 16, 2021, 10:12 PM
Dec 2021
While the initial effect on greenhouse gas emissions will be modest, it will grow over time. Burning fossil fuels for heat and hot water accounts for 40 percent of New York City’s greenhouse gas emissions, according to the Mayor’s Office of Sustainability. A study by the think tank RMI found that by 2040, the new law will reduce emissions by the equivalent of taking 450,000 cars off the road.

In the absence of gas for heating, hot water and cooking, those services will be provided by electric stoves and heaters. Although New York City’s electricity generation portfolio is not 100 percent clean, switching from burning gas on-site to using electricity has a lower emissions output.

“It’s a historic step forward in our efforts to reach carbon neutrality by 2050 and reduce our reliance on fossil fuels,” Furnas told the New York Times.

The bill’s supporters also characterized it as a victory for environmental justice, because it will reduce local air pollution, which is especially prevalent in lower-income and Black and Latino neighborhoods.

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
3. If I were an investor I'd start buying up gas-capable buildings.
Fri Dec 17, 2021, 12:37 AM
Dec 2021

New Yorkers who like to cook will be paying premium prices for them before long.

speculatively,
Bright

NNadir

(33,539 posts)
4. Do they have any idea at all how electricity is generated for New York City?
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 10:37 PM
Dec 2021

Indian Point is being shut, and no, that's not because they're going solar.

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