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Rhiannon12866

(206,006 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 07:34 PM Apr 2022

East Antarctica ice shelf larger than New York City collapses, worrying scientists - CBS News



An ice shelf larger than New York City has broken off eastern Antarctica, the first major shelf to collapse there in more than four decades of satellite observations — and scientists are worried.


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East Antarctica ice shelf larger than New York City collapses, worrying scientists - CBS News (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Apr 2022 OP
We're screwed. 2naSalit Apr 2022 #1
I know, it's frightening as hell and this has obviously gone too far to be stopped. Rhiannon12866 Apr 2022 #2
Yup. 2naSalit Apr 2022 #3
Wow, you don't think of Montana as being overrun as it is here in the East. Rhiannon12866 Apr 2022 #4
We still have... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #5

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
1. We're screwed.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 07:48 PM
Apr 2022

With the new war belching all that stuff into the air along with accelerated fossil fuel use over the last couple years, it's too late to stop it. I suspect some kind of chain reaction will take place at some point and it will be the end of it all.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
3. Yup.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 08:05 PM
Apr 2022

I was planning, sort of, to relocate this year but it's not going to happen now. There's no housing anywhere. So I'm staying put. Best not to leap if you don't have a place to land.

I have an okay place until I step outside and it's like a parking lot but I have all the appliances for staying home so I like that part. I've been in worse situations so I am thankful I'm already settled in. The water issue is going to be our next problem here, along with wildfires and excessive heat.

A lot of people are moving here but many leave after they get a load of a winter or two. There was a study done about Montana residents' views about tourism, it truly has gotten out of control and is damaging the landscape, and a majority said they were fed up with tourists. The main complaint is that there are too many and they are everywhere, can't get away from them even out in the back country. So there may be some hope for slowing the growth a little. If it continues to expand at exponential rates as has been the constant in the past decade, the ecosystem will collapse leaving a lot of the western states in big trouble. It's already getting down to that.

Rhiannon12866

(206,006 posts)
4. Wow, you don't think of Montana as being overrun as it is here in the East.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 08:24 PM
Apr 2022

Since we have a lot of mountains, those areas are still largely untouched - except for the ski center. But most of the woods are now residential areas - I still see deer (and bunnies, skunks and foxes) sometimes on my way home and realize that the building has encroached on their areas.

But then there's Lake George where every single inch of space is built up for the tourist trade. When I used to drive up north in the off-season, I rarely saw a car or another human (except for the occasional snowmobile). But that's all changed since the shutdown due to the pandemic was lifted. It's now not just their annual "winter carnival," all sorts of tourist venues have sprung up. There's a well-publicized "Ice Castles" attraction that got a lot of attention which made no sense to me - for admission of over $20, visitors can take a tour of a row of ice sculptures/piles. Now why would anyone need to pay admission to see what's already free to view right outdoors??

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
5. We still have...
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 09:22 PM
Apr 2022

Actual wilderness and wildlife habitat which are factors most don't consider until they find they are surrounded by them and/or want to remove them.

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