Greece electrical grid was 100% powered by renewables for at least 5 hrs last week

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Power generation from renewables fully covered Greece's electricity demand over a few hours last week, for the first time in the history of the country's electricity system, its independent power transmission operator IPTO said.

IPTO said on Monday that renewables accounted for 100% of the power generation for at least five hours last Friday, reaching a record high of 3,106 megawatt hours at 0800 GMT.

Like other European countries, Greece has cut its reliance on Russian gas following the war in Ukraine by increasing liquefied natural gas (LNG) imports. It has also boosted coal mining, pushing back its decarbonisation plan.

The share of Greek renewables from solar, wind and hydro stood at 46% of the country's power mix in the eight months to August this year, from 42% in the same period in 2021, according to Greece-based environmental think-tank The Green Tank.

https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/greek-renewables-fully-cover-power-demand-first-time-record-2022-10-10/

[NNadir]

1. Unlike antinuke cherry picking, serious people need 100% reliable energy...

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...100% of the time. If, after trillions of dollars, 50 years of insipid cheering for so called renewable energy, with the environment collapsing and the spectre of famine rising because of climate change, if a report like this is supposed to a positive, we are clueless, and we are killing the future.

A day contains 24 hours. It's autumn, energy demand is low. Thus this a statement of failure, not success.

Reality was the weeks of extreme temperatures in Europe, Texas and California and elsewhere where the wind wasn't blowing.

It was the poor who suffered the most, and bourgeois cheerleaders for the so called "renewable energy " scam couldn't have cared less.

People are being killed because "renewable energy " has done nothing to address climate change, because it requires access to dangerous fossil fuels.

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2. Greece's carbon intensity over the last 12 months is 323g

https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/GR

Compare that to France, at 75g

California, where I live, weighs in at 274g

These cheerful "100% renewable" reports are actually bad news in a way. They indicate that any additional solar or wind power capacity will be much less valuable.

Most of Greece's electricity is generated from fossil fuels. Additional wind turbines and solar panels can't reduce Greece's carbon intensity to French levels.

Hybrid gas/wind/solar power grids, like those in Greece and California, won't save the world. They'll only prolong our dependence on natural gas.

Sure, you can look at these statistics and say, "At least we're not Kosovo!" which has a carbon intensity of 758, but that doesn't make carbon intensities above 100 anything to brag about.

To decelerate global warming we must quit fossil fuels entirely, including natural gas.

[Finishline42]

3. Why doesn't Greece have any Nuclear Reactors?

Google says...

Greece does not have any nuclear power plants, with Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis saying in October 2021 the country has no plans to build any because of the risk of earthquakes in the region.

What do you expect them to do? Drink sour milk?

I've been saying for years the reliance on gas that replaces coal is just temporary, mainly because as we are seeing now, gas has tripled in cost. All of Europe was living high on the hog with cheap Russian gas, not only is not cheap anymore but Russia has proven once again who they are.

[NNadir]

4. Because they drank the absurd "renewable energy" will save us Koolaid. Lots of countries...

...did.

It's why climate change is running wild, the planet is burning, and where it's not burning it's flooding; it's why the seas are dying. It's why deaths from extreme heat are rising. It's why the oceans are acidified. It's why the specter of worldwide famine is rising.

Personally, I'm well aware of what anti-nukes have been saying for years and years and years, decades and decades and decades. No amount of evidence, even the world wide collapse of climate, can stop them from saying this stuff. It's a chant, not a fact. This is why the "renewable energy will save us" faith is nothing more than a cult, a pernicious cult, not much different than "Jesus will save us."

Three reactors and a city were destroyed in an Earthquake. Nobody gives a shit about the city of course, even though 20,000 people died from seawater. How many people died from exposure to radiation?

The reactors would have remained intact if the dangerous fossil fuel powered diesel back up remained intact. If in fact, instead of putting the valuable used nuclear fuel in a cooling pool, it had been placed in a thermoelectric device, at Fukushima, they would have swept the seaweed off the building and restarted the reactors.

It's funny - or would be funny if it didn't lead to so much death and destruction - if the anti-nuke "renewables will save us" cults were so adamant at shutting all the things destroyed by natural disasters, certainly including coastal cities, anytime building them somewhere led to deaths. As usual however, while raising the risk of natural disasters because they don't give a rat's ass about climate change, their attention is very selective.