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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:09 PM Jul 2023

The Guardian: Why aren't we more scared of the climate crisis? It's complicated

Why aren’t we more scared of the climate crisis? It’s complicated
Despite extreme heat and weather in the US, most Americans aren’t cowering in fear. There’s a psychological reason for it

Maggie Mertens
Sat 22 Jul 2023 09.00 EDT

This summer in the United States, millions of people have experienced the intense effects of the climate crisis. The “heat dome” that has gripped the south-west for the past three weeks is expanding into the south-eastern states. Catastrophic flooding in the north-east has claimed lives and wiped out farmers’ crops. And the worst wildfire season in Canadian history has not only caused tens of thousands of Indigenous people to be displaced, but the accompanying smoke has also billowed over into the north-eastern and midwest US, setting records for poor air quality. In many cases, these events have caused irreparable damage and trauma to those directly affected, and can certainly feel like they’re encroaching on those people on the periphery. And yet despite the fact that we’re living through a climate disaster, most Americans aren’t cowering in fear every day about the future of our planet. There’s a psychological reason for that.

For one, the climate crisis is a much lower priority for Americans than other national issues, such as the economy and healthcare costs. That isn’t to say that we aren’t concerned: two-thirds of Americans say they are at least “somewhat worried” about global warming, while 30% are “very worried”, per a Yale University survey. But because of the nature of the way that many humans experience fear, connecting this emotion to something as vast and complex as the climate crisis is difficult. According to Brian Lickel, a social psychologist who researches human responses to threats, we aren’t designed to remain in a high state of fear for long. “A very fundamental feature of the normal kind of expected emotional processing is hedonic adaptation,” he said. “Our emotion system is designed to be labile, to go up or have certain responses, but then to not stick there.”

The emotional response to the climate crisis – even if we feel fearful during an episode of wildfire smoke or flooding – is similar to what many people who live in war zones may experience, Lickel said. While at first, the threat of bombs and attacks are imminent and extremely frightening, eventually those who remain in these areas adapt somewhat to a life in which the threat becomes just another thing to deal with daily. “If they’re not escalating or the nature of the threat’s not changing,” Lickel said, “it is to be expected that the felt emotion is going to go down.”

Though the climate crisis is altering our planet rapidly on a geologic time scale, on a human one, changes are happening relatively slowly. That means that even if we see record-setting temperatures or experience our first indoors-due-to-smoke-days, those occurrences will become a new normal within the timespan of our lives. “I’m skeptical that there is going to be an event that’s going to catalyze us more than any of the things that have already happened,” Lickel said.

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Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
1. Propaganda makes Americans terrified of a rainbow flag or a face mask during a pandemic.
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:12 PM
Jul 2023

The real issues that should terrify Americans go by unnoticed.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
4. Well, assuming most people are not clinically depressed
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:20 PM
Jul 2023

they tend to see the world with some degree of positive bias. It's a perfectly healthy thing to get us through the trials and tribulations of life. Someone with depression doesn't have positive bias. While someone very depressed may see things even worse than they are, someone with moderate depression sees the world, and themselves, with remarkable clarity, warts and all.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
5. When positive bias gets us killed, it is no longer adaptive behavior.
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:24 PM
Jul 2023

And yes mild to moderate depressives see the world in a more realistic way.
Maybe that is why they are depressed.
Fantasy and denial keep us happier.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
11. Yes, positive bias is short sighted
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 08:28 PM
Jul 2023

It gets us through the day. But the question in the OP was why aren't people more upset about climate change. I was just answering that question.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
12. It is denial being fed by propaganda. And resignation.
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 10:01 PM
Jul 2023

People cannot face the fact the planet is dying and humans could become extinct or seriously
decimated. This is too much to face.

And it may cause wide panic as reality sets in.
Especially since the effects are literally in our faces with the smoke, heat and floods.

Also it may be resignation, like with gun control, the wealthy and powerful do
not want to pay for climate change prevention of remediation.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
13. It's definitely resignation with me
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 10:28 PM
Jul 2023

I'm 66, so I won't be around for the worst of it, but I think the ship has sailed. The time to make radical changes was 20 to 30 years ago. Now, I think it's just too late.

While Americans certainly contribute more per Capita than most other countries, we could reduce our emissions by half and it won't make a damn bit of difference if China and India are still building coal fired power plants. China already contributes double what the US does, and China and India together contribute over 1/3 of all carbon emissions. Well, they also have 1/3 of the world's population. At the end of the day, we just have too many people on a planet with limited resources and people need energy.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
14. Plus we have the wealthy who make money destroying the planet.
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 10:45 PM
Jul 2023

They are rich enough to bribe the politicians to not take action.
The billionaires are certain they can escape climate change consequences.

And we see the autocratic bloc (NK, Iran, Saudi, China, Russia) who see
climate change as a wonderful opportunity. Chaos is a good time to seize
world power.

So the dark underbelly of human nature is in full force.

So it may be that humans come to the end of road.

We had a good run. But couldn't do what it takes to survive as a species.
Humans have not evolved enough to survive long term.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
15. And it's not just global warming that will be our downfall
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 02:18 PM
Jul 2023

We already knew that particulate matter causes more bronchitis, reduces lung function, increases lung cancer and heart disease mortality. Now they are finding it also increases Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia.

https://www.cell.com/trends/molecular-medicine/fulltext/S1471-4914(22)00159-9

So it's not only about global air quality, LOCAL matters too!

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
6. Seeds take root in fertile soil
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:25 PM
Jul 2023

If people are already prone to believe something, persuading them to believe it does not require a great deal of effort. Really, all you need to do is give them permission.

The truth about “The Greenhouse Effect”/“Global Warming”/“Climate Change” was well understood in the 1970's. (For example, Soylent Green takes place in a world baking from “Global Warming” no explanation was necessary. The audience was assumed to understand what the characters were talking about.)

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
7. Yes Americans have known about climate change and damage to the planet
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:27 PM
Jul 2023

for decades.

Denial is an easier road than facing reality.

walkingman

(7,628 posts)
2. I think anyone actually experiencing the obvious climate changes might be more
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:18 PM
Jul 2023

likely to have greater concerns about our present situation. It seems like it "hasn't affect me" is is shrugged off. At some point even dullest of brains will stop believing the propaganda of the fossil fuel companies - similar to tobacco....hopefully.

If not you have to say we might deserve what we will get but sadly there will be no turning back. Economy and healthcare will take a backseat but it might be too late.

Pay attention to scientists not those who are so hardheaded that they will never accept what they see even with their own eyes.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
3. Sad to say...
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:19 PM
Jul 2023

Many people in my area have been hit by record flooding, yet still staunchly refuse to accept the truth…

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
8. I think most people think there isnt anything they can do about it personally so why worry about it.
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:49 PM
Jul 2023

Also, as long as they have aircon, tv and alcohol, most think they can survive.. and hope for the best.

Its going to take a catastrophic event to get everyone's attention.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
9. Wouldn't you think that Washington DC choking on smoke from Canadian wildfires would get attention?
Sun Jul 23, 2023, 07:56 PM
Jul 2023

Hello? GOP?

Are you paying attention?

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