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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 11:43 AM Jul 2023

Fox News: It's not climate change that's causing heat waves this summer but no one wants to explain...

Published July 27, 2023 6:00am EDT
It's not climate change that's causing heat waves this summer but no one wants to explain why

In the 1930s, the government's Heat Wave Index was four times higher

Every summer, heat waves inevitably hit the U.S. and other parts of the world, causing climate alarmists and left-leaning media outlets to demand dramatic, disastrous changes to the global energy system. Unfortunately, this summer is no different.

On Tuesday, U.S. media outlets published a wave of stories about supposedly "historic" heat waves in Europe and North America. For example, The Washington Post published an article titled "Heat waves in U.S., Europe ‘virtually impossible’ without climate change, study finds."

Similarly, Axios published a story titled "Historic and enduring U.S. heat wave, by the numbers."

Although certain parts of the U.S. have undoubtedly experienced strong heat waves this summer, there’s no reason to believe these weather events are evidence that the world is hurtling toward a climate change catastrophe. In fact, the best available evidence suggests that heat waves recorded a century ago were more problematic than anything we’re seeing today.



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Fox News: It's not climate change that's causing heat waves this summer but no one wants to explain... (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 OP
"but no one wants to explain why ]In the 1930s, the government's Heat Wave Index was four times high OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2023 #1
The "heat index" was created in 1979 OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #2
Was the calculation the same in 1930? I'm betting not. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2023 #4
Heat Wave Index ≠ Heat Index OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #6
Thanks for clarifying. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2023 #9
Gee... I wonder which it is..... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #11
The key phrase is "four times higher" OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #18
Statista: Heat Wave Index in the United States between 1895 and 2020 OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #3
I'd read it but I really don't need to lose any more IQ points (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #5
Racists and polluters underpants Jul 2023 #7
Ah, who makes money from racism and pollution? orthoclad Jul 2023 #15
The Actual Temps Just Used To Be Reported.... global1 Jul 2023 #8
No, the actual temperatures are actually getting worse.... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #12
What? You mean you never heard "It's not orthoclad Jul 2023 #16
Humidity levels are higher now than a century ago NickB79 Jul 2023 #19
Then Fox can turn off their air conditioning. usonian Jul 2023 #10
I used to think the truth would kill Fox viewers. GreenWave Jul 2023 #13
Science is wrong, Fox is right. You just have to have faith, baby! Chainfire Jul 2023 #14
Thanks or the info. I've been wondering orthoclad Jul 2023 #17

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
1. "but no one wants to explain why ]In the 1930s, the government's Heat Wave Index was four times high
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 11:47 AM
Jul 2023

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Change in calculations?

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
4. Was the calculation the same in 1930? I'm betting not.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:03 PM
Jul 2023

If not the same, Fox is using misinformation to confuse their viewers on the present day reality.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
6. Heat Wave Index ≠ Heat Index
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:07 PM
Jul 2023

There were extended “heat waves” in the 1930's (think “Dust Bowl”) but that doesn’t mean it was hotter.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
9. Thanks for clarifying.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:14 PM
Jul 2023

Either Fox "experts" aren't understanding the data that they are presenting to their audience....or they are deliberately misleading. If the later, that's really dangerous for a democratic society that needs honesty to survive.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
18. The key phrase is "four times higher"
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 02:48 PM
Jul 2023

Now, if we were talking about “Heat Index” what would that mean? That the perceived temperatures were four times higher? (Like 400°F?) Or the amount that the perceived temperatures were higher than the “actual temperatures?” (Which is based on humidity and wind, so, the “relative humidity” was like 360% maybe?)

Since these comparisons are absurd, clearly, He’s either making stuff up, or He’s talking about something other than “Heat Index.” (Or, perhaps a bit of both.)

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
3. Statista: Heat Wave Index in the United States between 1895 and 2020
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:02 PM
Jul 2023
Heat Wave Index in the United States between 1895 and 2020
The U.S. Annual Heat Wave Index tracks the occurrence of heat wave conditions across the contiguous 48 states from 1895 to 2020. This index defines a heat wave as a period lasting at least four days with an average temperature that would only be expected to occur once every 10 years, based on the historical record. The index value for a given year depends on how often such severe heat waves occur and how widespread they are.


global1

(25,253 posts)
8. The Actual Temps Just Used To Be Reported....
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 12:13 PM
Jul 2023

Nowadays - they have the 'Heat Index' to make it look worse and tell you the temp is this - but you'll feel even worse because of the heat index and it will feel even hotter or colder depending on the season.

Again - all this is designed to make one feel worse than thing actually are. To ruin your day.

That's why I call these producers of news - ambulance chasers.

Whatever the flavor of the day is - is what we get.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
16. What? You mean you never heard "It's not
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 02:25 PM
Jul 2023

the heat, it's the humidity"? Old cliche. Like "It's a dry heat". That's heat index. The true impact of heat on a human body.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
19. Humidity levels are higher now than a century ago
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:48 PM
Jul 2023

Which is what climate theory predicted.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/07/increasing-levels-of-humidity-are-here-to-make-heat-waves-even-worse/?comments=1

Only a moron would think this is just to "ruin your day".

Tell me 100F at 30% humidity is the same as 100F at 50% humidity.

GreenWave

(6,759 posts)
13. I used to think the truth would kill Fox viewers.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 01:30 PM
Jul 2023

Little did I know Fox would do it.

1. Covid misinfo
2. Now I see why some folks are dying in the heat

Others?

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
17. Thanks or the info. I've been wondering
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 02:28 PM
Jul 2023

how the Right has been spinning observable reality.

We have now had several generations who had tv as a babysitter, inducing a receptive, hypnotic mindset. It shows. Now the internet is making it worse by chopping the space into little bubbles.

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