Environment & Energy
Related: About this forum"Most Of The Data Centers Do Not Consume Water" - Ladies & Gentlemen, The Governor Of Utah!!
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At the same time, Utahs elected leaders have pushed for the state to be a hub for data centers, facilities that, for decades, have relied on large amounts of water to keep their servers cool, through a process known as evaporative cooling. Since 2021, Utah has added or announced plans for at least 15 new data center buildings or campuses, according to Data Center Map, and at least a few existing facilities expanded their footprints over that time.
Asked by The Salt Lake Tribune how he squared those traditionally water-intensive industries with his Great Salt Lake goals, Cox appeared steamed. Most of the data centers do not consume water. This is a big misnomer out there, he said in response.
Cox warned of rising electricity prices across the nation, a trend fueled, in part, by the rise of artificial intelligence and more data centers. The governor has embraced an initiative called Operation Gigawatt to more than double the states energy generation. At the unveiling of his Great Salt Lake initiative, he praised nuclear energy and its ability to power desalination plants, which could someday free up an abundance of water from the worlds oceans. Cox and other officials in the state have also warned of a new global arms race over who will ultimately control artificial intelligence technologies and the energy they need.
If you tell people, Im sorry, youre just not going to have any energy for the things that we need. Were just going to have to give up and let China rule the world, because we cant create energy because it uses some water, the governor continued, thats crazy talk.
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https://grist.org/technology/utah-data-center-water-supply-meta-novva/
mountain grammy
(28,754 posts)mwmisses4289
(3,409 posts)Guess I was wrong. Proof that religion rots the brain.
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SSJVegeta
(2,452 posts)quaint
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(2,452 posts)SonOfNebanaube
(79 posts)The cooling systems are a closed circuit loop.
hunter
(40,407 posts)These data centers get most of their energy from fossil fuel power plants that use huge amounts of water for evaporative cooling.
It's possible to build air cooled fossil fuel power plants, and these are commercially available, but they are less efficient than water cooled plants and therefore emit more carbon dioxide for the electricity they produce than water cooled power plants. Air cooled high temperature nuclear power plants are not commercially available, although many possible designs for them have been proposed.
The idea that desalinated ocean water could be transported to Salt Lake City (elevation 1,300 meters) is economically is absurd. What's usually proposed is that desalinated water would be used nearer the ocean allowing upstream cities to take more fresh water from higher elevations at huge environmental cost. Imagine the Colorado River or Snake River running dry at their headwaters.
When authoritarian political and religious leaders talk about competing with China in regards to these data centers I believe they know what the actual prize is. When the AI bubble bursts these data centers will be turned into huge surveillance machines. Big Brother's thought police will be watching you.