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[progressoid]

[Permanut]

1. We're doin' it in Portland Oregon..

Just yesterday the city council unanimously passed an ordinance expanding the plastic bag ban to all retail and food establishments. The earlier ordinance, passed in July 2011, included only grocery stores.

[NoOneMan]

2. Stop buying garbage you don't need at the supermarket

http://www.biodeg.org/files/uploaded/Carrier_Bags_Report_EA.pdf

I don't even think that study models carbon from washing ecoli out of your holy canvas bags.

[progressoid]

3. We've been using our 2 LDPE bags for about 8 years.

And a couple canvas bags that were given to us. Never had to wash them yet. And never had a problem with ecoli since we use them for groceries and not feces.

[NoOneMan]

4. Good deal on the reuse

Thats really the key, moreso than what its made out of. The entire push for the more carbon intensive, reusable canvas bags could only succeed in an idiocracy of people who can't understand how to do anything but throw away a plastic bag (these same type of people may also have a large collection of new, trendy canvas bags they collect).

There is ecoli on everything. Especially meats and what not if you eat that stuff (though if you do, how "green" are you really?). It can build up in a recycled bag, and you could get a harmful strain (and maybe not ever).

[Nihil]

5. Win!

> And never had a problem with ecoli since we use them for groceries and not feces.