Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
Wed May 1, 2013, 12:40 PM May 2013

George Monbiot: Why policymakers understanding the Precautionary Principle is important


Sir Mark Walport, the (UK) government's new chief scientist, doesn’t seem to understand what the precautionary principle means.

"...I was trying to understand the context for the new chief scientist's cavalier treatment of scientific evidence, in an article he wrote opposing a European ban on neonicotinoid pesticides. These are the toxins which, several studies suggest, could be partly responsible for the rapid decline in bees and other pollinators.

<>

Among the many problems with the article he wrote was the way he defined the precautionary principle. Interpreting and upholding this principle is fundamental to the chief scientist's role. Yet he doesn't seem to understand what it means. Here's what he said about it:

This simple idea just means working out and balancing in advance all the risks and benefits of action or inaction, and to make a proportionate response.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2013/may/01/protect-natural-world-understand-precautionary-principle

5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
George Monbiot: Why policymakers understanding the Precautionary Principle is important (Original Post) wtmusic May 2013 OP
If I had any hair, it would have just burst into flames. GliderGuider May 2013 #1
Monbiot conveniently omits the govt's pursuit of nuclear power from his list. kristopher May 2013 #2
It would only be hypocritical if he privately thought nuclear power more dangerous caraher May 2013 #3
Not at all. kristopher May 2013 #4
I think he is probably wrong *and* a hypocrite cprise May 2013 #5
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
1. If I had any hair, it would have just burst into flames.
Wed May 1, 2013, 01:07 PM
May 2013

SRSLY? Walport seems to think his job is to redefine any inconvenient terms for the benefit of TPTB and BAU. Jesus.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
2. Monbiot conveniently omits the govt's pursuit of nuclear power from his list.
Wed May 1, 2013, 01:43 PM
May 2013

I'm not surprised, since his endorsement of that policy would reveal him to be a hypocrite.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
3. It would only be hypocritical if he privately thought nuclear power more dangerous
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:01 PM
May 2013

In fact, Monbiot's position is completely consistent with his publicly-stated beliefs about climate change and the magnitude of the risks involved with nuclear power. Indeed, it would be truly bizarre for him to include nuclear power after the defense he made of it in the wake of Fukushima.

Unless you have some access to his private thoughts that I don't, this omission makes him, at worst, wrong, not a hypocrite.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. Not at all.
Wed May 1, 2013, 03:05 PM
May 2013

When you apply the precautionary principle to the use of nuclear power in light of the alternatives it is unequivocal that endorsing it violates the principle. Since he is taking others to task for being willfully blind in their interpretation of the PP that makes him a hypocrite.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
5. I think he is probably wrong *and* a hypocrite
Wed May 1, 2013, 11:31 PM
May 2013

Monbiot seems to think that nuclear is safe enough because the risks are known.

But the Precautionary Principle deals with how we act in the face of uncertain chances and high stakes. It applies more to nuclear power and less to carbon emissions, IMHO.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Environment & Energy»George Monbiot: Why polic...