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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:23 PM Aug 2013

No Evidence of Residential Property Value Impacts Near U.S. Wind Turbines, a New … Study Finds

http://newscenter.lbl.gov/news-releases/2013/08/27/no-evidence-of-residential-property-value-impacts-near-u-s-wind-turbines-a-new-berkeley-lab-study-finds/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]No Evidence of Residential Property Value Impacts Near U.S. Wind Turbines, a New Berkeley Lab Study Finds[/font]

August 27, 2013
Allan Chen 510-486-4210 a_chen@lbl.gov

[font size=3]Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) analyzed more than 50,000 home sales near 67 wind facilities in 27 counties across nine U.S. states, yet was unable to uncover any impacts to nearby home property values.

“This is the second of two major studies we have conducted on this topic [the first was published in 2009 – see below], and in both studies {using two different datasets} we find no statistical evidence that operating wind turbines have had any measureable impact on home sales prices,” says Ben Hoen, the lead author of the new report.

Hoen is a researcher in the Environmental Energy Technologies Division of Berkeley Lab.

The new study used a number of sophisticated techniques to control for other potential impacts on home prices, including collecting data that spanned well before the wind facilities’ development was announced to after they were constructed and operating. This allowed the researchers to control for any pre-existing differences in home sales prices across their sample and any changes that occurred due to the housing bubble.

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http://emp.lbl.gov/sites/all/files/lbnl-6362e.pdf
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No Evidence of Residential Property Value Impacts Near U.S. Wind Turbines, a New … Study Finds (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Aug 2013 OP
People all over west Texas know this. mbperrin Aug 2013 #1
"Windmill vs. nodding donkey" is different from "windmill vs nothing" FBaggins Aug 2013 #2
Out here, nothing is not a choice. Texas law says that mineral owners cannot be mbperrin Aug 2013 #3
So we can trust the nuclear industry is providing full comprehensive data... kristopher Aug 2013 #4
Can't tell the difference between data and the analysis of data, eh? FBaggins Aug 2013 #5
Applied to the point that is an irrelevant distinction kristopher Aug 2013 #6

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
1. People all over west Texas know this.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:45 PM
Aug 2013

In fact, given the choice of a pumpjack or wind turbine, farmers overwhelmingly favor wind.

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
2. "Windmill vs. nodding donkey" is different from "windmill vs nothing"
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:48 PM
Aug 2013

It should be an interesting read... but I'm skeptical. Too many ways to massage the numbers.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
3. Out here, nothing is not a choice. Texas law says that mineral owners cannot be
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:53 PM
Aug 2013

restricted by surface owners in retrieving their minerals from below the ground.

So here, it is windmill vs nodding donkey, or sometimes both.

But farm animals never get tangled up in windmill rotors going 2 mph 100 feet aboveground, whereas they do get chewed up by jacks periodically.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. So we can trust the nuclear industry is providing full comprehensive data...
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 05:49 PM
Aug 2013

...and research but "there are too many ways to massage the numbers" when it comes to a hedonic economic study related to property values and wind by NREL.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112752554#post35

Who could have guessed you'd embrace those ALEC inspired positions?

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
5. Can't tell the difference between data and the analysis of data, eh?
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:50 PM
Aug 2013

Not surprising.

Who could have guessed you'd embrace those ALEC inspired positions?

In fact... not more surprising than that you would continue to resort to such fallacious "logic"

By your definition... these are ALEC politicians

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. Applied to the point that is an irrelevant distinction
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 09:08 PM
Aug 2013

And neither of those Distinguished Gentlemen spend their time incessantly using ALEC propaganda to undermine renewables while promoting the nuclear industry.

You do. The spin on data above is a perfect example of your duplicity.

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