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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 09:04 AM Jan 2014

Using Nuclear Power to Extract Oil?

April 27, 2009, 9:35 am
Using Nuclear Power to Extract Oil?
By JOHN LORINC
Oil sands

Mining trucks carry loads of oil-laden sand at the Albian Sands project in Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada.
The Associated Press

After several years of speculation, the Alberta government last month released a long-awaited “expert’s report” on nuclear power and oil sands and has now embarked on a series of province-wide public consultations.

The move comes on the heels of a decision last month by Bruce Power, a private company that operates a publicly-owned nuclear station in western Ontario, to seek approval to build a $10 billion nuclear station at a site known as Whitemud, about 310 miles northwest of Edmonton.

Bruce Power hopes to begin an environmental assessment next year. Its proposal calls for two to four 1,000-megawatt reactors, with three vendors – Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd., Westinghouse and Areva – competing to supply the equipment.

According to the expert panel report, almost 90 percent of Alberta’s electricity comes from coal or natural gas, and demand is projected to jump 74 percent within the next 15 years, largely due to the needs of the oil sands projects — which consumes roughly 1 billion cubic feet of natural gas daily.

At the same time, the National Energy Board has projected a drop in long-term natural gas production in Western Canada...

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/using-nuclear-power-to-extract-oil/?_r=0


Toshiba Nuclear Reactor For Oil Sands To Be Operational By 2020: Reports
The Huffington Post Canada | Posted: 01/18/2013 2:27 pm EST | Updated: 01/18/2013

Toshiba Corporation has developed a small nuclear reactor to power oil sands extraction in Alberta and hopes to have it operational by 2020, according to news reports from Japan.

The Daily Yomiuri reports Toshiba is building the reactor at the request of an unnamed oilsands company.

The reactor would generate between one per cent and 5 per cent as much energy as produced by a typical nuclear power plant, and would not need refueling for 30 years. It would be used to heat water in order to create the steam used to extract bitumen from the oil sands.

Toshiba has completed design work on the reactor and has filed for approval with the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Nikkei.com reported. The company is expected to seek approval from Canadian authorities as well...


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/01/18/toshiba-oil-sands-reactor_n_2505738.html
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Using Nuclear Power to Extract Oil? (Original Post) kristopher Jan 2014 OP
This has never made much sense to me. Is the EROI even > 1? phantom power Jan 2014 #1
What about petroleum in general makes sense with what we now know? kristopher Jan 2014 #2
Sure, there's plenty to hate about it. phantom power Jan 2014 #3
A bad idea and I hope they don't repeat Operation Gas Buggy intaglio Jan 2014 #4
They actually tested it. I didn't know that. I'd heard of Project Cauldron... kristopher Jan 2014 #5

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
2. What about petroleum in general makes sense with what we now know?
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jan 2014

The EROI is the last thing I'd worry about with any tar sands project.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. Sure, there's plenty to hate about it.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jan 2014

At some point, we cross the threshold of literally throwing energy away to get it, which strikes me as one of those crucial sanity-questioning milestones.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
4. A bad idea and I hope they don't repeat Operation Gas Buggy
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jan 2014

Which was using a nuclear device to "crack" rock instead of fracking (fluid cracking)
Project Gas Buggy

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
5. They actually tested it. I didn't know that. I'd heard of Project Cauldron...
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 05:01 PM
Jan 2014

Also known as Project Oilsands.

... was a 1958 proposal to exploit the Athabasca Oil Sands in Albertavia the underground detonation of up to 100 nuclear bombs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Oilsand

Thanks for the link.
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