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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
Fri May 2, 2014, 12:07 PM May 2014

CNN Just Reporting: . KXL measure lacks the 60 votes needed for construction

Last edited Fri May 2, 2014, 01:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Great news. This has to be stopped.

Thank You Nebraska for standing your ground.
Thanks to the 60 Senators who can hold this vote up.
Hope they don't change their minds

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CNN Just Reporting: . KXL measure lacks the 60 votes needed for construction (Original Post) misterhighwasted May 2014 OP
60 Senators? packman May 2014 #1
I think it's more than 40 are against it. n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #15
Hallelujah! Indyfan53 May 2014 #2
This ^^^^ riqster May 2014 #3
This doesn't make sense Sanity Claws May 2014 #4
Maybe the Senate is short of the 60 votes. pangaia May 2014 #5
Could they be in their shorts? Sanity Claws May 2014 #6
Yes, yes. Absolutely. pangaia May 2014 #11
Reported here as 56 senators in favour of XL, they thought they could get 6 or 7 more muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #7
Done deal Cartoonist May 2014 #8
Mary Landrieu navarth May 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author navarth May 2014 #10
Authorization to build this pipeline across the border is an Executive Branch power Samantha May 2014 #13
Dunno - it seems to me they'd need that 2/3rds to 'bypass' a presidential veto muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #14
I don't think President Obama falls for bluffs very often Samantha May 2014 #17
Someone here ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #16
Exactly -- learned this in an 8th grade civics class in a public school! Samantha May 2014 #18
KXL measure lacks the 60 votes needed for construction misterhighwasted May 2014 #12

Sanity Claws

(21,850 posts)
4. This doesn't make sense
Fri May 2, 2014, 12:55 PM
May 2014

60 votes total are needed to pass something and avoid a filibuster that would prevent a vote.

If something fell 60 votes short, then nobody supported it. Is that accurate? Or is CNN just its usual inaccurate self?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. Maybe the Senate is short of the 60 votes.
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:00 PM
May 2014

...or maybe the short senators are not voting
or the senators voting in favor are two short, or too short.
Could be any of the above, or none...

muriel_volestrangler

(101,336 posts)
7. Reported here as 56 senators in favour of XL, they thought they could get 6 or 7 more
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:02 PM
May 2014

but that seems unlikely to the reporter:

A bipartisan bill was introduced yesterday that would circumvent President Barack Obama by issuing a permit allowing construction. The move came after his administration delayed a decision on the $5.4 billion project, possibly into next year, citing a legal challenge to the route it would take through Nebraska.
...
The legislation’s authors -- Republican Senator John Hoeven of North Dakota and Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana -- said they have 56 supporters -- four shy of what’s needed to end delaying tactics by opponents and make the vote anything more than an election-year gambit putting supporters on record for voters back home.

Hoeven said all 45 Senate Republicans, along with 11 Democrats, support his legislation, and now he and Landrieu have “six or seven” Democrats in their sights, yet don’t yet have any takers. The bill is S.2280.

The targets are Democrats who in March 2013 joined Republicans to pass a nonbinding resolution backing the pipeline with 62 votes.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-05-01/wooing-of-wavering-senators-to-force-keystone-seen-falling-short

Cartoonist

(7,320 posts)
8. Done deal
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:08 PM
May 2014

The targets are Democrats who in March 2013 joined Republicans to pass a nonbinding resolution backing the pipeline with 62 votes.
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The spineless just need a little more cash.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
9. Mary Landrieu
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:15 PM
May 2014

She's a sponsor of this and just recently I got emails from some Democratic organization asking me to send her money. 'Support Mary Landrieu'!

Fuck that.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #7)

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
13. Authorization to build this pipeline across the border is an Executive Branch power
Fri May 2, 2014, 02:14 PM
May 2014

not a Legislative Branch power. The President must approve the pipeline, and acquire two-thirds of the Senate to approve it. Just the Senate.

Who are they kidding?

Sam

muriel_volestrangler

(101,336 posts)
14. Dunno - it seems to me they'd need that 2/3rds to 'bypass' a presidential veto
Fri May 2, 2014, 02:30 PM
May 2014

in both chambers. Maybe their idea is that since Obama says he's undecided, a majority vote in both chambers (assuming the Repub majority in the House will vote for Oil) will get him to leap off the fence onto their side. But that doesn't seem a 'bypass' to me.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
17. I don't think President Obama falls for bluffs very often
Fri May 2, 2014, 10:24 PM
May 2014

And he is a Constitutional expert so I am thinking he is pretty familiar with the text of the law.

It is we the people these legislators are trying to sucker-punch. They think we cannot read or do not know the law. After all, many of us went to public schools....

Sam

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
16. Someone here ...
Fri May 2, 2014, 03:06 PM
May 2014

either read the US Constitution or took, and passed, 8th grade Civics ... or maybe both.

Brava!

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
18. Exactly -- learned this in an 8th grade civics class in a public school!
Fri May 2, 2014, 10:26 PM
May 2014

I remember thinking I was the only one in class who found civics fascinating! Still do.

Sam

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