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[font size=3]What will it take to convince skeptics of global warming that the phenomenon is real? Surely, many scientists believe, enough droughts, floods and heat waves will begin to change minds.
As this study and McCrights past research shows, political party identification plays a significant role in determining global warming beliefs. People who identify as Republican tend to doubt the existence of global warming, while Democrats generally believe in it.
The abnormally warm winter was just one in an ongoing series of severe weather events including the 2010 Russian heat wave, Hurricane Sandy in 2012 and the 2013 typhoon in the Philippines that many believed would help start convincing global warming cynics.
Theres been a lot of talk among climate scientists, politicians and journalists that warmer winters like this would change peoples minds, McCright said. That the more people are exposed to climate change, the more theyll be convinced. This study suggests this is not the case.
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The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)For an ideologue, facts are the enemy of truth.
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)It's faith vs. fact.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)We should not be using anything but Climate Change. They cannot deny that.
OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)Someone who can deny Global Warming in defiance of the science, can deny Climate Change just as easily.
Personally, I wish wed go back to the (much older) Greenhouse Effect.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)believe it. When we use Climate Change we can point to actual visible events that they cannot deny. Katrina, floods, draughts, extinctions of animals such as polar bears, etc.
Most deniers are visual. If they cannot see it they do not believe it. It is very strange that so many of them believe in God. We cannot see Him either.
OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)And there has always been extreme weather. Buffalo got hit hard in the winter of 1976-1977. (This is what inspired Jimmy Buffett to sing of people freezing in their cars in Buffalo.)
http://duckduckgo.com/?q=buffett+manana+buffalo+cars
And extinctions are nothing new.
Todays skeptic or denier seems more likely to accept the notion of Climate Change but not as likely to accede that it is caused by people.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)do it calls for real changes.
OKIsItJustMe
(19,938 posts)that they are now at least more willing than they were to admit that Climate Change/Global Warming is occurring.
(Thats the first step. Acknowledging that the problem exists.)
jwirr
(39,215 posts)know are beginning to understand a but more what those phrases we use really mean and they are beginning to see the effect world wide. And yes we may finally be getting through - I hope.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)Let's see, my local weather, which is not global, but is still oddly warmer, was and will be:
Today it was 5 degrees above normal for the morning low. Not bad.
Tomorrow will be 10 degrees above normal for the morning low. About normal for these drought conditions.
The next day will be 15 degrees above normal for the morning low. Not that unusual these past three drought years.
The next day after that will be 17 degrees above normal for the morning low. A little higher than usual, but not out of the ordinary.
Then the next two days are 10 degrees above normal for the morning low.
What do all of these fall days have in common? Dry, without the possibility of precipitation. I think I've counted two days in 2014 that had morning temperatures that were below the running average. Coincidence?
You think beef and vegetable costs were high this year! Ha! Wait until Spring of 2015. No water. Less food. Higher prices.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)the nature of the problem. The denial was never rooted in anything rational or reality based. It is absolutely possible for climate disaster to play out indefinitely, without ever changing a single "climate skeptic's" mind.