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appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:24 PM Feb 2015

Did the GOP Just Give Away $130 Billion of Public Property

Did the GOP Just Give Away $130 Billion of Public Property?

A giant Anglo-Australian mining company is getting the rights to a huge copper reserve - and we don't know what US taxpayers are getting in return.

In December, two Republican senators, John McCain and Jeff Flake, pushed Congress and the president into giving away what could amount to over $130 billion in public property.

That's enough to provide every single unemployed American a minimum-wage job for an entire year. That's enough to pay for a year of tuition at a public institution for every college student in the US.

And yet the GOP big-shots call themselves "fiscal conservatives"! "Fiscal conservatives," my you-know-what.

I'm talking about the huge giveaway to the mining companies Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton in the Defense Authorization Act. It was splayed across ten pages of the bill, pages 441 to 450 (out of 697).


Much more at link:

http://truth-out.org/news/item/29182-did-the-gop-just-give-away-130-billion-of-public-property

Infuriating! The public comment period of the EIS seems like the main way to exert pressure on this, with letters to Obama & Vilsack also being worthwhile.

-app

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butterfly77

(17,609 posts)
2. They have sold..
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:09 PM
Feb 2015

Streets and toll roads to foreign countries All during the Bush years and traded mangoes for nuclear weapons.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
4. Not low grade public land though.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:21 PM
Feb 2015

Or, that's what people who live near there say. I've never been to that exact location, but oppose public-land giveaways on principle.

-app

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
16. the value of the copper, makes this kinda like a 'jobs' project that pays for itself
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:38 PM
Feb 2015

(if I read the story correctly)
as for the land swap,
you would have to look at the
properties involved, to decide
if the deal is fair

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
5. I just wonder how much Rio Tinto is sending to GOP reelection campaigns in secret . . .
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:22 PM
Feb 2015

No doubt it's only pennies or less to the dollar for what our copper is worth, but Republicans are historically quite cheap when one goes to buy them.

 

jimruymen

(22 posts)
6. carving up America; aided and abetted by Democrats
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:42 PM
Feb 2015

for one, we shouldn't be doing this to our land and certainly shouldn't be facilitated by Democrats; oh, I forgot we're about to fast track the TPP

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
10. Indeed.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:20 PM
Feb 2015

You make a good point in bringing up TPP and the other trade agreements moving their way through the system under Obama's supportive watch. The investor-state dispute courts and many other provisions of these 'agreements' (to which I certainly do not agree) will be used to further enclose and appropriate public lands and other resources.

-app

 

Dwight42

(43 posts)
15. Obama's return is coming in a couple of years
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:56 PM
Feb 2015

Well the public got nothing at all, as is so usual in this neo-liberal/conservative political climate but Obama, like Bill Clinton before him will make several hundred millions of dollars on the lecture circuit and speaking engagements over 10 years after leaving office.

Bush on the other hand took most of the Obama administration to be rehabilitated enough, thanks to Obama not arresting him and his administration for war crimes and even socializing with him to go on the lecture circuit and get his percentage for selling out the people of the United States to the corporate world.


valerief

(53,235 posts)
9. I'm sure McCain and Flake are being taken care of, and that's all
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:01 PM
Feb 2015

that matters--making rich people richer. The rest of us? Let me quote the oligarch with, "Fuck them."

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
11. Maybe they want to generate tax revenue
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:28 PM
Feb 2015

that they will eventually have the poor pay instead as soon as possible.

fingrin

(120 posts)
12. Rio Tinto
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:34 PM
Feb 2015

are parasites. Here in New Zealand they effectively blackmailed the Government for a bail out with the threat of job losses because they were losing money. Surprise, fucking surprise the next year they announced record profits.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. And here we are with another foreign country (Canada - Keystone and BP - the Gulf) that is given
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:52 PM
Feb 2015

more help than our own American small businesses.

FBaggins

(26,739 posts)
18. The article is pretty deceptive
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 12:01 PM
Feb 2015

It was in no sense a giveaway of $130 Billion. The author doesn't come close to establihing that value (a property simply isn't worth the current market value of all of an estimated resource that has yet to be recovered and won't begin recovery for a decade).

Nor do I see anything about the (much larger) property that was swapped. The Congressman insinuates that the appraisal will be cooked, but doesn't even give his own estimate of what that other property is worth.

I don't doubt that it's a sweetheart deal... but the author's apparent need to use extreme hyperbole hints it isn't.

OTOH... I think Mr Grayson would use extreme hyperbole if his evening meal included wax beans instead of green.

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