UK's First Supermarket Hydrogen Filling Station Opens in London

[nationalize the fed]

11 March 2015 theengineer.co.uk


Air Products Hydrogen Station

The UK’s first supermarket-based Hydrogen filling station has opened at a branch of Sainsbury’s in Hendon, North London.

The new dispenser is one of a network of similar systems being installed across the capital as part of the Innovate UK-funded London Hydrogen Network (LHNE) project.



The 700 bar system, developed by US firm Air Products, is operated in much the same way as a conventional fuel pump, and according to the manufacturer, can refuel a vehicle in less than three minutes...

...Business Minister Matthew Hancock said: “Hydrogen cars present us with a huge potential economic opportunity and can bolster our internationally renowned automotive industry. We want to make the UK one of the best places in the world to design, manufacture and sell ultra-low emission vehicles but we need the right infrastructure in place.”

Complete article: http://www.theengineer.co.uk/news/more-news/uks-first-supermarket-hydrogen-filling-station-opens/1020020.article

Store details
Unit 4 Hyde Estate Road
LONDON NW9 6JX
Store Manager Bob Knock
Telephone [phone]
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/storelocator/storelocator_detail_view.jsp?storeId=637&bmForm=store_details

October 31, 2014: Sainsbury's to be first supermarket to dispense hydrogen fuel at its Hendon store

Sainsbury’s is set to become the first supermarket to sell hydrogen on its forecourts for the new generation of environmentally-friendly vehicles...

...“Hydrogen vehicles are environmentally friendly as well as efficient so we are really excited about being the first UK supermarket to trial this new technology and make it accessible to our customers,” said Avishai Moor, fuel and kiosk category manager at Sainsbury’s.

Diane Raine, Air Products’ hydrogen energy business manager, said making hydrogen technology available at a supermarket for the first time was “another big step in encouraging the use of cleaner, greener fuels to reduce air pollution and protect the nation’s health.”

“We’re already leading the charge with a network of hydrogen stations across London and this additional station will set us in good stead for the UK arrival of commercially available hydrogen vehicles over the next few years.”...
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/home/topics/environment/sainsburys-in-supermarket-first-selling-hydrogen-fuel/373106.article

A Hydrogen Station in 48 Hours- anywhere there is water and electricity

[hunter]

1. Any licensed electrician can install an outdoor electric outlet for a few hundred dollars.

Not many people drive forty or more miles to the supermarket.

Go ahead, buy a hydrogen car if you like, I just don't see that I ever will.

[nationalize the fed]

2. If you're talking about a standard 110 volt outlet

you better have something to do while your car charges. Because you get -what- maybe 5 miles per hour of range with a supply like that- if you're lucky
http://my.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/charging-110v-outlet

And most grid electricity comes from coal.



The hydrogen revolution is going to change everything.

Last I knew you were "ambivalent" about Nuclear. Is that still the case?

This neglects the very real possibility that our civilization will fail because we've depended too much upon fossil fuels. I am now convinced the dangers of fossil fuels far exceed the dangers of nuclear power -Hunter
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hunter/34

The anti-nuclear movement is rife with innumeracy. There are so many things that are worse than nuclear power.

The environmental damage caused by coal is going to kill the world economy (and a lot of people too) and then all these questions will be moot. World commerce will become difficult as seaports are claimed by the sea, and our container ships have no place to go.

Chernobyl? The true horror of Chernobyl is that it restored an exuberant natural ecology to a very wide area by the exclusion of humans, which demonstrates conclusively that humans are more toxic to the environment than the very worst sorts of nuclear waste.- Hunter
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x63698

[hunter]

3. Electrical outlets at work and at home, 8+ hour charges.

At 240 volts and 30 amps, or 480 volts and 15 amps, still well within the capabilities of any electrician. They've probably got all the tools and most of the materials they need in their truck.

Solar panel shaded parking lots at workplaces are increasingly common in my California community.

In the future two car families like my own are likely to opt for one all electric commuter car and one plug-in hybrid for longer family trips.

I drive a Piece-Of-Shit (POS) 1984 model car, and buy fuel for it a few times a year, whether I need to or not. I bought fuel for it yesterday. Previously I bought fuel in early January. My wife and I abandoned the car commuter lifestyle in the mid 'eighties. We were both Los Angeles commuters when we met. We don't miss the days when it could take an hour or more of freeway nastiness to drive twenty miles.

I don't make any apologies or excuses about my indifference towards nuclear power because most non-nuclear energy is every bit or more as awful.

Wow, tritium and other random radioactive shit from nuclear, or methyl mercury, carbon dioxide, and random radioactive shit from coal, or fracked "natural" gas... what a choice!!!

I'm actually some kind of Luddite. It's clear to me that the most advanced forms of transportation are comfortable shoes, electric legs and wheels for the disabled, bicycles, sailing ships, and electric rail, in that order.

If I was emperor of this earth I'd outlaw any privately owned vehicles with engines or motors greater than ten kilowatts.

My connections to several prominent "hydrogen economy" people go back to the 'seventies, and that was when I first got uncomfortable with hydrogen because I couldn't make the math work.

[NYC_SKP]

5. Hydrogen is being pushed by Chevron, Royal Dutch Shell, Air Products, and others.

They want to kill the electric car and they will fail.

Still, they're hoping to get enough infrastructure out there and municipalities and fleets so that they at least won't evaporate as an industry.

But you're right, it's a cheap install. I plugged in for free last night at a Hampton Inn in Fresno, for free, got a full charge overnight.

With level two cut that in half and with DC fast charging it will be done while you shop, 30 minutes.

Screw Hydrogen, it's claptrap.

[GliderGuider]

4. The footprint of a high-energy civilization

No matter what the energy source:

[NickB79]

6. Hey look, more reformulated natural gas! Oh joy!

Air Products is the company supplying the hardware.

http://www.airproducts.com/products/Gases/supply-options/onsite-gas-generation/hydrogen-gas-generation-systems.aspx

Our highly efficient process means that PRISM hydrogen generators use less natural gas and other utilities to save energy. And you get the reliability you expect because our generators are remotely operated and controlled by our Operating Service Centers. Our advanced reforming and purification technology means the compact hydrogen generator requires less space.

But don't worry, at some point in the next 20 years they promise they'll install a few solar panels to generate a little "green" hydrogen.