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hatrack

(59,587 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 08:43 AM Jul 2015

India Will Not Commit To Peak Year For Carbon Emissions, But Will "Cooperate Closely" blahblah

In disappointing news for watchers of global warming, an Indian government official has said the country won’t announce a target date for reducing the total amount of carbon it emits. India is the world’s third-largest emitter of carbon dioxide, which causes climate change.

First reported by the BBC, the comments came from Indian environment minister Prakash Javadekar, who said that the country will submit a plan to cut emissions to the U.N., which is hosting international climate talks at the end of the year. But India will not give a target date for when it expects to peak its total carbon emissions. “The world is not expecting… India to announce its peaking year,” Javadekar told the BBC. “Countries know where India stands and what its requirements [development needs] are and therefore nobody has asked us for [the] peaking year.”

The comments are not exactly new ground for Javadekar, who has said before that India will need to keep emitting carbon in order to combat its poverty problem. Last year, in an interview with the New York Times, Javadekar said “that his government’s first priority was to alleviate poverty and improve the nation’s economy, which he said would necessarily involve an increase in emissions through new coal-powered electricity and transportation.”

He said that the idea of peaking carbon emissions is more “for developed countries.” The United States, the second-largest carbon emitter, has pledged to cut its carbon emissions by 26 to 28 percent by 2025. China, the largest carbon emitter, announced on Tuesday a commitment to peak its emissions around 2030.

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http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/07/02/3676524/india-climate-pledge-wont-peak/

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6chars

(3,967 posts)
1. Crap
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 08:47 AM
Jul 2015

and double crap.

somehow or other we have to figure this thing out or we are so totally screwed. yes india, that includes you.

on point

(2,506 posts)
6. Punishing tariffs against polluters. Eliminate economic argument
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jul 2015

If continuing to pollute means goods cannot be exported, then it will make sense to fix it. Otherwise there is a free rider problem and no incentive to address the problem

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. Anyone who expects anything different at this point is dreaming in Technicolor
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jul 2015

The Pope and Naomi Klein notwithstanding.

Given what has already happened to the world's oceans from CO2, land-based climate change may not even be the biggest threat. And you can't plant trees in the oceans.

We're done.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
4. They may end up with a way to "alleviate poverty" by killing them....
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jul 2015

They had well over 2000 deaths confirmed to the heat wave over India in the last few weeks. I find this amazingly low in a country of over 1.25 billion people. How many could die if the heat waves continue, tens of thousands? Millions? Hundreds of millions?

Obviously the solution is to burn more coal and run more air conditioners.

This is not going to end well.


Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. America and Europe energy gluttony has fucked up the environment...stop blaming India.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:58 AM
Jul 2015

India will do it's part but will not take shit from the mass polluters of 100 years.

Do not forget that the real problem in the world is still America and it's anti-science Congress.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
10. Leave India Alone!
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 04:59 AM
Jul 2015


India is like China: They don't give a fuck about the planet or its inhabitants, just their personal wealth.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. So..just like America and the Western world....for the past 200 years? Indians have heard of Trump.
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 09:50 AM
Jul 2015

Who is just another version of the Ugly American that has ruined the planet in more ways than one.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
12. Except India and China are charging full speed ahead to repeat the mistakes of the US and Europe
Mon Jul 6, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jul 2015
India will do it's part but will not take shit from the mass polluters of 100 years.


So when we tell them "We fucked up the environment with rampant fossil fuel use and put ourselves into the fossil fuel industry's pockets, don't repeat our mistakes", is that "taking shit" from Europe and the US?

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
8. The world should have immediately taken action in 1988 when James Hansen gave his famous speech
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 08:11 PM
Jul 2015

to Congress outlining the problem.

It also would have helped if we had kept up our efforts to bring down the cost of renewables after Reagan was elected. But instead the solar panels came down from the roof of the White House.

CRH

(1,553 posts)
9. Maintaining humans, produces carbon, ...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jul 2015

with approx. 1/7th the population of the world, India cannot meet any emissions targets that would have consequence.

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