(ahem) MEAT IS MURDER!

[HopeHoops]

Well, somebody had to say that.

21 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
	Meat is murder.
	2 (10%)
	I luv's me some meat!
	14 (67%)
	McD's sell meat?
	0 (0%)
	We don't need no stinkin' meat, man.
	0 (0%)
	I like eggs, Howard
	0 (0%)
	One fart and you're dead.
	0 (0%)
	Meat? Meat? Meat? What the hell is SPAM?
	0 (0%)
	Bong Hits.
	0 (0%)
	I catch my farts in the bathtub (got votes in another of my polls)
	0 (0%)
	Meat is tortured flesh. (My choice)
	5 (24%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[thelordofhell]

1. Eat Is Murder

[teddy51]

2. I am a huge hypocrite to, by the way. If I had to kill what I eat I would either be a vegetarian

or starve to death. As it is now, it comes from the SuperMarket.

[Politicalboi]

5. Same here

What scares me is how I think it was China can make meat out of human shit. That my friend is scary shit.

[NeverEnuff]

3. Meat

What about baked placenta?

[elleng]

4. Sorry, not.

'Killing of another human being . . . .,' unless you're thinking cannibalism.

[Kali]

6. sorry

this was showing on the latest page

[Ian David]

7. I like meat, but I will gladly embrace the day it is grown cruelty-free in giant vats.

Or on trees.

I will eat genetically engineered eggplants that grow veal inside them.

[LeftyMom]

8. I'm not totally sure what the point is of having this poll in this group.

[HopeHoops]

11. Curiosity. Check again and see which option is winning.

Frankly it surprised me. Still, we have to keep alive the understanding of how factory farms operate. I'm amazed by how many people I encounter who still think of blue skies and open grass fields when the word "farm" is mentioned. They have no idea where McFood or that plastic tray of meat covered in plastic wrap actually originated or how it is processed.

[LeftyMom]

13. I think maybe you missed my point.

This is the Vegetarian, Vegan and Animal Rights group. Posting a poll here about meat eating makes as much sense as having a poll in the Atheists and Agnostics group about which deities one believes in.

On DU3 the Latest setup shows group posts, so we get drive-by posts from omnivores who haven't noticed which group they are posting to. This isn't a huge deal, but posting red meat (pardon the term) that draws them in to post stuff counter to the SOP for this group is counterproductive.

We don't need a poll to know that most DUers eat meat and have ideas about the use of animals that we'd disagree with. I'd just like that attitude toward animals kept out of the Veg group, because that attitude being expressed in other forums was the whole reason we got a group (DU's very first) in the first place.

[HopeHoops]

14. Then there's a good reason I missed your point...

... I had no idea that group posts were visible without visiting the group. I don't spend a lot of time on the home page. I'll keep that in mind in the future. Thank you!

[AndyTiedye]

21. Some Meat-Eaters Still Care About Animal Rights

You won't convert very many DU'ers into vegans with posts like the OP.

Having drawn some carnivores here, you might get a few to buy free-range chicken/eggs and grass-fed beef instead of the factory farm stuff if you try though.

[flvegan]

22. That's funny.

No, really it is. Let us not discuss your thoughts of "conversion" of "very many DU'ers into vegans" because that's the side show.

Meat-eaters (your term) don't give a shit about animal rights. Animal welfare, maybe, but not animal rights. Your pat-on-the-head aside about getting "a few to buy" free-range and grass fed yada-yada bullshit aside.

Animal Rights goes beyond apologist weepings about what you stuff in your clueless fucking face.

And BTW, nobody here is trying to "convert" anyone. The Tofu Ghetto (hat tip to Leftymom) has been here a long, long time (hat tip to Elad).

With that, those that choose to make a conscious decision to lessen the suffering by moving towards more humane animal products always have my respect, for what it's worth, but if you ingest meat, I can't embrace an "animal rights" standpoint. But that's okay.

But with that, I won't suffer apologists gladly. Or if need be, we can go outside.

[veganlush]

9. if you can

Acknowledge what goes on in factory farming. with for example the smart and gentle pigs in those gestation crates. and still buy the stuff to support that cruelty, and live in that state of denial, there is something missing in you that you need to find.

[HopeHoops]

24. Sadly, the vast majority of meat eaters have "Old MacDonald's Farm" in their minds.

[pansypoo53219]

10. murder makes good gravy.

[HopeHoops]

12. So do mushrooms, but they don't scream when you kill them.

[PavePusher]

15. Well...

not on a frequency that you can respond to...

[HopeHoops]

16. Good point, but I haven't seen the dogs wince when I cut one.

[PavePusher]

17. Heh...

I actually intended to convey something on a chemical/pheromonal-type "communication", but was in a hurry and wasn't clear.

Well played.

[HopeHoops]

18. Okay, but to be fair, I can't remember cutting mushrooms leading to sex until after we ate.

[PavePusher]

19. ROFL.....!!!!

I better quit while I'm "a head".

Or not...

[HopeHoops]

20. Um, most of the ones that look like that are "stink horns".

[HopeHoops]

25. So do mushrooms, but they don't scream when you kill them.

[Marrah_G]

23. Other: I don't eat meat now for health reasons

Except fish, I do still eat new england seafood.

[HopeHoops]

26. I'll eat New England sea vegetables, but not fish or shellfish

[DetlefK]

27. So are vegetables, bread, beer, brushing teeth and disinfecting wounds.

Is it murder when you dig a carrot or a potato out of the ground, chop it and boil it?

Is it murder when you tease the yeast in bread and beer with starch, only to kill and consume it once it has flourished?

Is it murder when you scrub bacteria, and the bio-film they call home, from your teeth, only to drown them in medical toothpaste?

Is it murder when you poison a humble bacteria that wants nothing more than to feast on the salty-sweet juices in your open wound?