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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,837 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:06 PM Sep 2021

Australia made 'huge mistake' in cancelling submarine deal, says French envoy

MELBOURNE/PARIS, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Australia has made a "huge" diplomatic error by ditching a multi-billion-dollar order for French submarines in favour of an alternative deal with the United States and Britain, France's envoy to Canberra said on Saturday.

Canberra announced on Thursday it would scrap its 2016 deal with France's Naval Group to build a fleet of conventional submarines and instead build at least eight nuclear-powered ones with U.S. and British technology after striking a trilateral security partnership.

The move caused fury in France, a NATO ally of the United States and Britain, prompting it to recall its ambassadors to Washington and Canberra, and also riled China, the major rising power in the Indo-Pacific region.

Malaysia said on Saturday that Canberra's decision to build atomic-powered submarines could trigger a regional nuclear arms race, echoing concerns already raised by Beijing.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-australia-made-huge-mistake-132453810.html

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Australia made 'huge mistake' in cancelling submarine deal, says French envoy (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Australia views China's aggressive actions in the comradebillyboy Sep 2021 #1
WTF? France is still building conventional subs? And why did... brush Sep 2021 #2
It was to be a diesel variant of a nuclear sub FBaggins Sep 2021 #4
Still, who wants diesel subs nowadays? WWll subs were diesel. brush Sep 2021 #5
The French will get over it. Chainfire Sep 2021 #3

comradebillyboy

(10,134 posts)
1. Australia views China's aggressive actions in the
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:15 PM
Sep 2021

South China Sea with justifiable alarm. They need good security arrangements to protect their own national interests. France doesn't have much of a military presence in that region. The US does. And the US has lots of allies in the region.

Plus the French Naval Group wasn't living up to its contractual obligations.

brush

(53,758 posts)
2. WTF? France is still building conventional subs? And why did...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:10 PM
Sep 2021

the Aussie's agree in 2016 to a multi-billion dollar deal for a fleet of non-nuclear submarines when nuclear powered subs have been the naval standard for generations now.

brush

(53,758 posts)
5. Still, who wants diesel subs nowadays? WWll subs were diesel.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:54 PM
Sep 2021

We've come a ways since then with nuclear subs which outperform them is in just about every way.

Chainfire

(17,515 posts)
3. The French will get over it.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:14 PM
Sep 2021

If Paris does not think that there is a huge arms race going on in the Pacific, they just aren't paying attention.

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