Reportedly, President Biden might visit East Jerusalem

[Tetrachloride]

Until some tangible announcement from the White House occurs, this report must be considered rumor or something.


https://egyptindependent.com/biden-considering-visit-to-east-jerusalem-israeli-official-says/

[Mosby]

1. Why not? E J'lem was liberated by the Israelis in 1967

From the illegal Jordanian occupation and annexation.

The freedom the citizens of Jerusalem enjoy is because of Israel.

[TheRealNorth]

2. Thats some funny revisionist history

Are you going to claim that Putin is liberating Ukraine from the Nazis next?

[Mosby]

3. Except it's true. You have been taken in by propaganda.

The West Bank was illegally occupied by Jordan in 1948. That was at the end of the war of genocide against Israel when the country came into existence and all its neighbors attempted to kill all the zionists and failed, miserably.

For the next 20 years Jordan destroyed every trace of Jewish presence in the West Bank, including destroying every synagogue and cemetery.

When the Arabs were prepared again to kill all the Jews in 1967, it failed again, but this time the Israelis took back the West Bank and Gaza.

If it wasn't for the country if Israel, Palestine would be a distant memory, since neither Jordan or Egypt accepted their national aspirations.

Further, the Jordanians (HASHEMITES) are not indigenous to the Levant, they are from the Gulf region but were given half the Palestinian mandate by the imperialists GB, who have no legal right to it in the first place.

The Palestinian homeland was given to the Hashemites as a consolation prize because they lost their fight against the Saudis.

None of that was legal under international law.

[The Magistrate]

6. It Was The United Nations, Actually, Sir

Inheritor of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine of 1922. Awarded by that body to administer an area of Ottoman territory conquered by England in the Great War. It was current international law at the time, there was and is no higher authority than successful use of force.

I've no intention of educating you further on the events surrounding and subsequent to the U.N. partition. I will point out only that the Hashemite ruler, long an English client, sought in '48 to conquer Jerusalem, both because he'd long felt by rights it ought to have been incorporated into Trans-Jordan, as it then was styled, and because he despised a leading Palestinian nationalist, the Mufti of Jerusalem, a Nazi collaborator. The Jordanian force employed, the Arab Legion, was equipped by England, and trained and led by English officers. This force managed to secure the old Jewish Quarter of the city, and held it when the Green Line was established by the '49 Armistice. This is the area now known as East Jerusalem. There were very few Jews there when Israeli forces took the place in '67.

Your personal attack on the basis of a screen name is out of line, and I expect you know it.

[The Magistrate]

12. Not So In Many Particulars, Sir

The Hashemites were formerly local authorities at Mecca, when that was under Ottoman rule. They aligned with England against the Turks, on the understanding that the crown of an Arab kingdom would be theirs when victory came. Hussein, the head of the family, received the crown of Hejaz, while his son Feisal was to be king in Damascus. This the French would not agree with, and Feisal soon was driven from the place by French armed forces. Hussien at Mecca fared no better, he was solidly defeated by Ibn Saud and his Wahabbi Brotherhood fighters. Ibn Saud pursued his defeated rival north, and still today the boundaries between Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Iraq run about where the English halted his advance with armored cars and aeroplanes near the end of 1921. Fiesal was put on the throne of Iraq (to administer which England received a separate Mandate from the League of Nations). His brother Abdullah was made not king but emir (more or less prince) of that portion of the Palestine Mandate west of the Jordan River. He was none too happy with it, thinking he ought to have either a port or Jerusalem.

Nothing whatever was illegal about any of this at the time. England had the authority to administer the area, and could do so in the manner most convenient to it. The direction to foster a Jewish national home, was so worded specifically to avoid directing a Jewish nation be established there. Nowhere was it directed the Mandate in its entirety be rendered into this Jewish national home. No less than Winston Churchill, speaking not long after the Mandate was received, declared that anyone who supposed the formula to mean Palestine was to be as Jewish as Manchester was English mistook the policy of His Majesty's government.

Your characterization of Jordanian (and Egyptian) occupation is close enough in substance. It is certain that before '67, agitations on behalf of an independent Palestine referred to areas under Israeli rule, from which many Palestinians had fled during the fighting in '48.

[asa4ever]

5. Yes, June 8, 1967, when Israel murdered 34 American Marines and Sailors.

[asa4ever]

8. So, you think it is cute that Israel murdered 34 American Marines and Sailors.

[The Magistrate]

9. I Think You Are Cute, Dear

Though I doubt you're much fun at parties....

[mcar]

10. I bow to you, my friend

[AZLD4Candidate]

11. What is your point of this post? It was a misidentification. Israel acknowledged, apologized

and made restitution.

[asa4ever]

13. Sorry I can't be more specific.

[AZLD4Candidate]

14. Because the facts interrupt your narrative.

[asa4ever]

15. No, because the truth is classified.

[AZLD4Candidate]

16. Do you have proof of that? Or is this just a conspiracy theory?

Burden of proof on you making the accusation, not on me.

[asa4ever]

17. Yes, I was in the Army Security Agency at the time.

I had just returned from Europe and was stationed at Fort Meade. The ship had members of the Naval Security Group. The third part of the military was the Air Force Security Service. Most members of the three groups have had their records flagged. Mine were flagged by Headquarters Vint Hill Farms Station in October 1962, "In accordance with paragraph 5a, AR 614-31, it is requested that the personnel files on the following individual be flagged, effective this date, as the individual may be restricted from certain assignments and travel as a result of having access to special intelligence.". Special intelligence is now called TS/SCI. "It is not the intent of this letter to impose any undue disadvantage on the individual's career in the U.S. Army. but is intended solely in the interest of national security". My records are still flagged except for this document and my medical records. I can not say who we worked for and what was Vint Hill Farm Station, if you look it up I can not confirm anything. For any members of these three groups, your records are probably still flagged unless you have received documentation that these restrictions no longer apply.