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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:04 PM Oct 2022

Former russian military commander speaks candidly in interview and is immediately disconnected.




Stunned reactions keep coming in with respect to Ukraine reclaiming Lyman. Andrey Gurulyov, former deputy commander of Russia's southern military district, said he couldn't explain the defeat. He blamed in on a system of lies, "top to bottom" and was suddenly disconnected.


He was asked why nobody anticipated the fall of Lyman. His response was that this shouldn't have been possible from a military viewpoint, because troop-strengths and troop-movements are continuously evaluated.

Instead he blamed "the constant delivery of good reports, or you can call it lying" where information isn't transported from the bottom to the decision-makers at the top, but goes from top to bottom..................... and as soon as he spoke the word "lying", his skype-connection had a malfunction and a few seconds later he was gone.
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Former russian military commander speaks candidly in interview and is immediately disconnected. (Original Post) DetlefK Oct 2022 OP
Like Dubya invading Iraq... A cakewalk. Over in a week. keithbvadu2 Oct 2022 #1
Yep, Cheney created a "B Team" within the CIA to edit and massage intelligence reports Midnight Writer Oct 2022 #3
The Ukrainians continue to improve. Better weapons tactics and morale captain queeg Oct 2022 #2
That guy will be lucky if he's alive tomorrow PortTack Oct 2022 #4

keithbvadu2

(36,852 posts)
1. Like Dubya invading Iraq... A cakewalk. Over in a week.
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:10 PM
Oct 2022

Like Dubya invading Iraq... A cakewalk. Over in a week.

Loooooooonnnnnng week.

Midnight Writer

(21,771 posts)
3. Yep, Cheney created a "B Team" within the CIA to edit and massage intelligence reports
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:30 PM
Oct 2022

to reflect his views. These reports were then presented to Bush as evidence that the USA had to follow through on Cheney's plans to takeover the Middle East (Project for a New American Century).

So, intelligence from the top down. A recipe for disastrous decision making.

captain queeg

(10,220 posts)
2. The Ukrainians continue to improve. Better weapons tactics and morale
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:29 PM
Oct 2022

The Russians continue to be doing worse, I’d say mostly due to low morale but their tactics don’t seem to be improving. In desperation they are just becoming more brutal and using terror tactics on civilians.

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