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Eugene

(65,381 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:59 PM Jun 4

Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say

Source: Reuters

Exclusive-Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say

Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali
Wed, June 4, 2025 at 3:57 PM EDT·4 min read

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The United States assesses that Ukraine's drone attack over the weekend hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them, two U.S. officials told Reuters, a figure that is about half the number estimated by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Still, the U.S. officials described the attack as highly significant, with one of them cautioning that it could drive Moscow to a far more severe negotiating position in the U.S.-brokered talks to end more than three years of war.

Russian President Vladimir Putin told U.S. President Donald Trump in a telephone conversation on Wednesday that Moscow would have to respond to attack, Trump said in a social media post.

Trump added it "was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace."

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Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-ukraine-hit-fewer-russian-195714573.html

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wcmagumba

(4,066 posts)
2. T-rump is pro Putin and lies about most everything, so no, I don't believe these figures...I believe Ukraine...
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jun 4

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,403 posts)
6. We get where you are going but Vlad is not an adjective
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jun 4

Try "Sanewashers are going to sanewash Vlad". Or fascist-washers, but best if the adjective is a single syllable. Or "dic-washer" / "dict-washer" (dictator), but that is actually the opposite of your meaning. Maybe "saint-washing".

All from "white-washing" where white is an adjective (as in Tom Sawyer found a great way to avoid white-washing the fence). In many cases it's hard to come up with easily understood smooth flowing phraseology and I don't know the way here.

Ritabert

(1,189 posts)
4. Of course the US has to disparage the attack
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:11 PM
Jun 4

...since they weren't briefed on it. Tit for tat.

Irish_Dem

(70,844 posts)
5. I do not believe anything the US government says.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:41 PM
Jun 4

They are a group of pathological liars and work for Putin.

niyad

(124,371 posts)
7. Unidentified "officials" from which agency? So ruzzia must respond. .
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 11:41 PM
Jun 4

even though Ukraine was responding to endless ruzzian attacks? Fuck orange, fuck putler, and fuck kellog, who ought to know better.

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