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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Thu Sep 18, 2025, 02:45 PM Thursday

Saudi Arabia signs a mutual defense pact with nuclear-armed Pakistan after Israel's attack on Qatar

ISLAMABAD (AP) — Saudi Arabia and nuclear-armed Pakistan have signed a mutual defense pact that defines any attack on either nation as an attack on both — a key accord in the wake of Israel’s strike on Qatar last week.

The kingdom has long had close economic, religious and security ties to Pakistan, including reportedly providing funding for Islamabad’s nuclear weapons program as it developed. Analysts — and Pakistani diplomats in at least one case — have suggested over the years that Saudi Arabia could be included under Islamabad’s nuclear umbrella, particularly as tensions have risen over Iran’s atomic program.

But the timing of the pact appeared to be a signal to Israel, long suspected to be the Middle East’s only nuclear-armed state, which has conducted a sprawling military offensive since Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel stretching across Iran, Lebanon, the Palestinian territories, Qatar, Syria and Yemen.

Israel did not respond to requests for comment. The pact marks the first major defense decision by a Gulf Arab country since the Qatar attack. The United States, long the security guarantor for the Gulf Arab states, also did not respond to questions posed to the State Department.

https://apnews.com/article/pakistan-saudi-arabia-defense-israel-india-11cd003a55eb7bec7431cb134f29db5d

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Saudi Arabia signs a mutual defense pact with nuclear-armed Pakistan after Israel's attack on Qatar (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Thursday OP
It would not surprise me if all the Arab states plus Iran join a House of Roberts Thursday #1
This is big news.Little Marco MIA. Nukes are on the menu bronxiteforever Thursday #2
Thought to be a message Old Crank Thursday #3
Qatar not Oman Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Thursday #4
Changed it. Old Crank Thursday #6
Both countries are also Sunni by huge margins. Shia is moniss Thursday #5

House of Roberts

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1. It would not surprise me if all the Arab states plus Iran join a
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 03:17 PM
Thursday

'Middle Eastern Treaty Organization' before too long.

bronxiteforever

(10,777 posts)
2. This is big news.Little Marco MIA. Nukes are on the menu
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 03:23 PM
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for the Gulf states. Alliances are forming that clearly show the end of American foreign policy leadership.
Netanyahu can’t attack Saudi Arabia now without the spector of nukes being used against Israel.
Of course this also may trouble the delicate balance of India and Pakistan as well.

Meanwhile the US under TSF and Rubio, are blowing up Venezuelan fishing boats.

Old Crank

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3. Thought to be a message
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 04:25 PM
Thursday

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To Israel. you think?

How hard did they tip the apple cart with their bombing Qatar.

I guess we will get to see.

moniss

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5. Both countries are also Sunni by huge margins. Shia is
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:33 PM
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the majority in Iran, Iraq and Bahrain. The Bahrain ruling family is Sunni however and the whole thing can be complicated in Bahrain. Lebanon is not a majority Shia or Sunni population as Lebanon has a real mix of religions. The Palestinians are overwhelmingly Sunni. The countries we sometimes call the "Gulf States" were heavily manipulated militarily in battles and coup attempts by the US, UK and France after WW2 with the majority of screwing around being the US and UK and sometimes enlisting the help of Israel. They are majority Sunni except for Oman which has a separate offshoot of Islamic religion. Turkey is majority Sunni. Kuwait is Sunni.

Nasser in Egypt was extending his power and influence throughout the Middle East specifically in efforts to kick the UK colonialists out. The US and UK wanted to protect their oil and shipping interests and they proceeded to prop up, then undercut and pit the various factions in all the different countries against each other in a carousel of follies throughout the late '40's and into the '70's. Our media of course ignores all of this history of our f*cking around and f*cking over all of the various factions. Especially when they discuss Yemen for example.

We always have to keep in mind the Sunni and Shia thing because while it is not like they are cutting each other up the religious differences in countries deep into their religion are always important if not always openly made a point of conflicting views.

Hamas is majority Sunni and Hezbollah is majority Shia. An easy way to conceptualize it is that the "Northeastern" countries in the Middle East are mostly Shia.

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