Shame on you, Mary McGowan Davis

[shira]

....Shame on you, furthermore, McGowan Davis, for several formulations in your text that ought to prompt the kind of urgent reconsideration and retraction that your once-esteemed colleague, Richard Goldstone, who traveled this self-same ignominious route before you, ultimately found the vestiges of decency to acknowledge. Goldstone belatedly admitted that his panel’s allegation of deliberate Israeli targeting of civilians was a lie. You steered narrowly away from quite so definitive an allegation. But you contorted ludicrously, for instance, to misrepresent gloating Hamas threats to fire rockets at Tel Aviv and other specific targets as constituting humane warnings to the Israeli citizenry. It’s worth quoting your paragraph 92 in its full ridiculousness:

“In a few instances it appears that Palestinian armed groups in Gaza attempted to warn civilians in Israel of attacks that might affect them. For example, according to information provided by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the State of Palestine, on 12 July 2014 an armed group in Gaza announced in Arabic and Hebrew that it would carry out an attack on Tel Aviv and specified the time at which the attack was to take place. On another occasion, according to media reports, the Al Qassam Brigades issued a warning to airlines not to fly to Ben-Gurion airport as it considered the airport to include a military base. On 20 August 2014, the Al Qassam Brigades, through a press release issued in English, once again warned international airlines not to fly into Tel Aviv starting from the following morning, and asked residents of communities located in the vicinity of Gaza to avoid returning home, or to remain inside shelters.”

An “armed group” — heaven forbid that the report explicitly acknowledge Hamas’s centrality to the rocket onslaught — “asked residents… to avoid returning home.” Let me understand this: Were Hamas’s spokesmen to ask all residents of the State of Israel to avoid returning home because Hamas intends to fire rockets and stage attacks throughout the country in order to destroy it, would that count as an admirable warning, an act of humanity, because, after all, it would mean we would have the opportunity to flee before our homeland was destroyed? Would the UNHRC’s subsequent report on the destruction of Israel go easy on Hamas and other terror groups because they had issued warnings, and because, after all, Israel is filled with military bases, and most Israelis have served in the army?

Other critics have already highlighted the report’s similarly devastating obtuseness when it comes to Hamas’s cross-border tunnels. The commission could not “conclusively determine the intent of Palestinian armed groups with regard to the construction and use of these tunnels.” The fact that “Palestinian armed groups” carried out a series of attacks into Israel via these tunnels was, incomprehensibly, not sufficient evidence of their purpose? The panel didn’t have a fundamental problem with “Palestinian armed groups” having manifestly spent months and years carving out tunnels into sovereign Israeli territory? And it didn’t realize — as it struggled to assert that, during the conflict, the tunnels were “only used to conduct attacks directed at IDF positions in Israel… which are legitimate military targets” — that for Hamas, all Israeli Jews are legitimate military targets?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/shame-on-you-mary-mcgowan-davis/

[Little Tich]

1. Weak fare from Horovitz as usual.

The only good thing with the OP is that all the pro-Israel talking points are collected in one article:

The UN is biased against Israel
The UNHRC is obsessed with Israel
The mandate for the report is biased
Israel shouldn't cooperate with the UNHRC
The context that Israel defends itself against terrorist is missing
Failure to mention that the blockade aims to stop imports of weapons
Failure to mention that Hamas wants to destroy Israel
Goldstone admitted that his report was full of lies
Hamas targets civilians with the rockets
The tunnels were designed for attacking civilians
Failure to distinguish between aggressor and defender
The World is against the Jewish State
There will always be another round of war
Israel's hands are tied by those who want Israel to act too humanely
This is a new form of war and the world doesn't understand that

Did I miss anything?

[shira]

2. That UN committee just claimed that Hamas gave humane warning...

....to Israeli civilians when they fired indiscriminate rockets at them.

And your reaction to that? Do you buy that idiocy?



The UN said they have no evidence indicating the tunnels were meant for anything other than military purposes.

Seriously?



What do you call this schlock if not outright support for Hamas' fascist, neo-nazi agenda?

[grossproffit]

3. Yelling Allahu Akbar constitutes a warning?

[Little Tich]

4. One pro-Israel talking point is that there's never any equivalence.

This means that nothing that Hamas or the other armed groups do should ever allowed to be compared to what Israel does. The enemy must be dehumanized at all times.

I think the warnings from Palestinian militants that an attack was imminent and the general area where that attack would occur, is something worth mentioning in the context of a report investigating possible war crimes, especially since Israel claims that using warning systems exonerates them, even if people die in droves because they were impossible to heed.

It doesn't exonerate Hamas from being responsible for any injuries their attacks have caused, however.

[shira]

5. It's a really sick joke to even pretend Hamas was trying....

.....to give Israeli civilians ample, humane warning; given their genocidal, Jew-hating agenda within the Hamas Charter:

“The Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realization of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: ‘The day of judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jews will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say ‘O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”

They were gloating like the psychopathic, fascist freak-shows they are; trying to cause fear, panic, and helplessness in Israel. That's just what Hamas does, day-in and day-out. Whether it's women, gays, and christians in Gaza, or the jews in Israel. It takes intentional blindness to deny the obvious. It's the very same Hamas that gladly takes credit and boasts about murdering Israeli innocents after suicide bombings. And now we're to believe they were trying to be humane with warnings?

Please. They're trying to end Jewish history. Period.

One question for you:

Suppose Hamas had Israel's firepower & Israel had Hamas' military capabilities. What do you think Hamas would do with that kind of advantage?

[Little Tich]

6. Your post is difficult to respond to. n/t

[shira]

9. What's not clear? Just ask. n/t

[Little Tich]

10. The ubiqitous use of strong adjectives is what prevents me from responding.

You're stealing too many premises, so to speak.

[grossproffit]

7. Some deny that the Hamas Charter exists

[shira]

8. No different than denying the Nazi genocidal manifesto. n/t

[Little Tich]

11. Maybe I'm foolhardy for asking - But what is the Nazi genocidal manifesto? n/t

[shira]

12. Nazi intent to kill all Jews. Hamas has the same intent. n/t