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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:27 PM Jun 2015

Mossad-linked group holds anti-BDS legal seminar

Shurat HaDin, an organisation with links to Israel's government and security services, is holding a seminar this week in Jerusalem "to train lawyers from abroad to litigate BDS." The gathering follows a period of intensified attacks by Israeli officials on the Palestinian-led boycott movement, including reports of imminent Justice Ministry-initiated lawsuits.

The group is often presented as a "civil rights organisation" working "to stop the flow of terror money" - as Newsweek put it, "attacking the terrorists in their pocketbooks". In fact, as revealed by Wikileaks, Darshan-Leitner "privately admitted to taking direction from the Israeli government over which cases to pursue and relying on Israeli intelligence contacts for witnesses and evidence."

In other words, as an Israeli journalist wrote in 2013, Shurat HaDin "files lawsuits at the behest of the Israeli government", yet still "dares to define itself as a 'human rights organisation'."

One of Shurat HaDin's most infamous attempts to undermine the BDS campaign was their 'anti-discrimination' case brought against the pro-boycott Australian academic Jake Lynch, which ended in failure in July 2014.

Even before the courts dismissed the case, Israel advocates had warned that litigation was "inappropriate and likely to be counter-productive." Shurat HaDin's track record also includes an unsuccessful lawsuit against Jimmy Carter, and threats to global charity Oxfam.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/blogs/politics/19562-mossad-linked-group-holds-anti-bds-legal-seminar

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Mossad-linked group holds anti-BDS legal seminar (Original Post) azurnoir Jun 2015 OP
Pretty funny considering that MEMOs funding is a secret. Mosby Jun 2015 #1
The article is written by Ben White oberliner Jun 2015 #2
And of course that scumbag wrote a book on Israeli "Apartheid". shira Jun 2015 #8
They're based in the UK why don't you write them about it? azurnoir Jun 2015 #5
MEMO: Why Hamas should not heed calls to amend Charter shira Jun 2015 #7
The thrust of the article is that ino rder to have any meaning change must come from within Hamas azurnoir Jun 2015 #14
And not one mention of the charter's genocidal call to kill all Jews. shira Jun 2015 #16
the part of Hamas charter being referenced is an end times prophecy azurnoir Jun 2015 #22
why indeed? Mosby Jun 2015 #23
Ben White...who understands & explains why people are Jew haters. shira Jun 2015 #3
why don't you fill us in on the rest of what he said about those reasons being misguided azurnoir Jun 2015 #4
If you want to fill us in on what that POS wrote, then by all means..... n/t shira Jun 2015 #6
prove your not once misrepresenting or it will be difficult to take very seriously azurnoir Jun 2015 #10
Huh? Are u saying if I link to Counterpunch, the post can be hidden? shira Jun 2015 #12
you cherry picked it and attempt to foist it off as a stand alone comment azurnoir Jun 2015 #15
So you support both Ben White & MEMO, correct? shira Jun 2015 #19
Guilt by association doesn't work azurnoir Jun 2015 #21
you post 2 quotes from a 2002 Cocounterpunch article if you are not misrepresenting what was said azurnoir Jun 2015 #9
So u want me to supply a link so that my post can then be hidden? n/t shira Jun 2015 #17
I would not alert it and will pubically request that no one else does either azurnoir Jun 2015 #20
your Haaretz article is about the dangers of rise of religious Zionism azurnoir Jun 2015 #11
You missed the irony. Ben White understands why people hate Jews.... shira Jun 2015 #13
The subject of th haaretz article was the rise of religious Zionism azurnoir Jun 2015 #18
Shurat HaDin is an Israel funded hate group that uses weaknesses in the US legal system Little Tich Jul 2015 #24
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. The article is written by Ben White
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:53 PM
Jun 2015

The guy who posted "a massive picture of Howard Jacobson's face" as a reason to support the boycott.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. The thrust of the article is that ino rder to have any meaning change must come from within Hamas
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jun 2015

not be hard pressured from outside

The Hamas Charter is considered by the movement's supporters as a key and stand-alone historical document pertaining to Hamas's political and social ideology. In the event that this document is altered or amended, it would cause a state of undue and untimely confusion and tension within the ranks of the Hamas supporters. It would also be seen as a concession to international and Israeli pressures, even if the changes made to the charter were not substantial or even if the new charter was more extreme in crucial issues such as the recognition of Israel or dealing with international proposals. As long as such amendments form part of international demand or foreign advice, then any response to these demands will be seen as a concession and a weakness in the eyes of both Hamas's supporters and the movement's political opposition. It will also send a message to international forces that soft pressure on the movement actually works.

In addition to this, no amendment to the charter would sufficiently please the international community beyond altering the core of the Hamas's political thought. No changes to the charter would satisfy Western forces unless they explicitly recognise the two-state solution and clearly accept the legitimacy of the continued existence of the Israeli state on Palestinian territories, while shunning the Palestinian national struggle in all its forms. From a strategic regional and international perspective, unless making concessions to these specific points there is no point in changing the charter, as such change may ultimately crack the intellectual infrastructure of Hamas and cause severe repercussions affecting its survival.

Palestinians still remember Fatah's ill-fated political acquiescence, particularly the amendment of the organisation's charter under the supervision of Yasser Arafat in 1996 to appease Bill Clinton. Although Fatah changed the PLO Charter under US pressure, it did not reap the fruits of this change and it ultimately did not serve the Palestinian cause. Instead, it caused disappointment and decline; a fate which may well befall Hamas if it makes the same mistake.


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/blogs/politics/15829-why-hamas-should-not-heed-calls-to-amend-charter
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
16. And not one mention of the charter's genocidal call to kill all Jews.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jun 2015

Not one word condemning that call to kill the Jews.

How convenient.

I would expect a progressive opinion about the Hamas Charter to include a little outrage at that.

Nothing.

MEMO supports Hamas. Their support for the Charter is indefensible.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
22. the part of Hamas charter being referenced is an end times prophecy
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jun 2015

and in Christian end times prophecy everyone not a Christian dies and burns in hell, that includes Jews too, yet we see little outrage about that, why??

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
23. why indeed?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jun 2015

Why do Muslims and Christians have end-times prophesies where everyone not in agreement with them die or burn in Hell?

Nothing like that in Judaism.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. Ben White...who understands & explains why people are Jew haters.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

From a CounterPunch article White wrote...

I do not consider myself an anti-Semite, yet I can also understand why some are. There are, in fact, a number of reasons.


I have just provided a by no means comprehensive list of reasons why "I can understand very well why some people are unpleasant towards Jews". I do not agree with them, but I can understand.


He later tweeted this...

Ben White ‏@benabyad 2 Jan 2012
"Understanding is the beginning of justification that ends with acceptance, and is the root of all evil" http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/they-are-not-masters-of-the-land-1.405175




azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
4. why don't you fill us in on the rest of what he said about those reasons being misguided
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:35 PM
Jun 2015

it's from a 2002 edition of counterpunch

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
10. prove your not once misrepresenting or it will be difficult to take very seriously
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jun 2015

but then again I am not purposely choosing sources that could well lead to a hidden post if actually linked to

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. Huh? Are u saying if I link to Counterpunch, the post can be hidden?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jun 2015

And unless I prove that's what Ben White wrote - and he did write it at CounterPunch - you're going to deny he wrote it?

Honestly, I don't know what the heck you mean.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. you cherry picked it and attempt to foist it off as a stand alone comment
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jun 2015

when it is really about how misguided the notion is

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
19. So you support both Ben White & MEMO, correct?
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:03 PM
Jun 2015

How about the recent flotilla from this week with Ann Wright on it? She defended Greta Berlin.

You support that too?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. you post 2 quotes from a 2002 Cocounterpunch article if you are not misrepresenting what was said
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jun 2015

post a link for us and prove it

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. your Haaretz article is about the dangers of rise of religious Zionism
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:48 PM
Jun 2015

the tweet came from it was pulled from somewhere apparently

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
13. You missed the irony. Ben White understands why people hate Jews....
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jun 2015

He then tweeted...

"Understanding is the beginning of justification that ends with acceptance, and is the root of all evil"


So his understanding of Jew haters ends with accepting them, and that's the root of all evil.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
18. The subject of th haaretz article was the rise of religious Zionism
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jun 2015

and the subsequent acceptance of that so if the unlinked tweet is related the danger is religious Zionism

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
24. Shurat HaDin is an Israel funded hate group that uses weaknesses in the US legal system
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:28 AM
Jul 2015

to do lawfare.

It seems as if the rest of the world has safeguards against what Shurat HaDin does, and it's a bit disconcerting that a country with an exploitable legal system has jurisdiction outside its borders.

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