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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 01:46 AM Jul 2015

PLO ambassador endorses Protocols of the Elders of Zion

Source: Jerusalem Post

At speech in Santiago, Palestinian representative to Chile denies existence of the Jewish people.

The Jewish people does not exist, PLO Ambassador to Chile Imad Nabil Jada’a told an audience during a talk he gave in Santiago this May, according to a video released by the Institute for the Study of Global Anti-Semitism and Policy.

Addressing members of the “Gran Logia” Masonic Lodge, Jada’a said that Palestinians “don’t recognize the existence of the Jewish people” as there is not, in fact, any such people.

“This is not my personal analysis. Here we can refer to the Jewish Israeli professor from the University of Tel Aviv, Dr. Shlomo Sand, in his book ‘The Invention of the Jewish People.’ A Jew with Israeli passport announces that, the so-called Jewish nation is a made up invention. Because a religion cannot be a people,” he said.

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/PLO-ambassador-endorses-Protocols-of-the-Elders-of-Zion-408250

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PLO ambassador endorses Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Original Post) Little Tich Jul 2015 OP
'the so-called Jewish nation is a made up invention' So what? So is every other nation. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
Completely false headline shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #2
I'm sorry, but there's no reason at all to try to help this guy. Little Tich Jul 2015 #3
fair enough shaayecanaan Jul 2015 #4
Completely true headline oberliner Jul 2015 #9
Not much worse than hateful BDS drivel about Jewish power. n/t shira Jul 2015 #5
I seriously doubt that you can find any hateful BDS drivel about Jewish power at all. Little Tich Jul 2015 #6
You were shown plenty of hateful drivel from Mondoweiss about Jewish power... shira Jul 2015 #16
Actually it's 100% identical to the hateful drivel you post about Palestinians Scootaloo Jul 2015 #8
Another fascinating response oberliner Jul 2015 #10
I'm speaking of one specific thing here. Do you care to engage? Scootaloo Jul 2015 #12
She cant answer you ...... Israeli Jul 2015 #13
She never can Scootaloo Jul 2015 #14
So quoting Fathi Hamed is an example of hateful drivel against Palestinians? shira Jul 2015 #17
Denying the existence and nature of a people is hateful. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #18
But I'm not denying they exist now. They certainly do.... shira Jul 2015 #19
Abbas recalls Palestinian ambassador to Chile over anti-Semitic remarks azurnoir Jul 2015 #7
Glad that Abbas didn't make excuses for this anti-semite oberliner Jul 2015 #11
Good riddance. n/t Little Tich Jul 2015 #15

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
2. Completely false headline
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:45 AM
Jul 2015

the headline claims the ambassador endorsed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. In fact he quoted Shlomo Sand, which is a very different thing altogether.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
3. I'm sorry, but there's no reason at all to try to help this guy.
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 09:32 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:12 AM - Edit history (1)

I watched the clips, and they are correctly translated (I understand some Castellano and he's speaks very clearly). This guy is a bona fide anti-Semite, and a Palestinian ambassador to boot.

There are two clips from the speech. While they're short, I have no doubt that the context is about his opinion about that the Jews are all Khazars, and that the Protocols are genuine.

First clip:
Source: Vimeo, May 15, 2015
https://vimeo.com/132330949

"Until 1896 when a group of academic intellectuals, financial advisers, majority being non-Jewish Europeans, decided to create the Zionist movement with one pretext/excuse; the
creation of a homeland for the Jewish people. Although the truth is that this (the goal) is to protect their plans of dominating life in the entire planet. According to the book “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” published in 1923, discovered by Lenin after the triumph of the Bolshevik revolution in Russia was over. In that book they mention the destruction of the moralities of other religions. In that book they put plans of the manipulation of all the apparatus of the financial, economic and industrial of the entire world. They discuss about the manipulation of the local political forces from all different countries."





Second Clip:
Source: Vimeo, May 15, 2015
https://vimeo.com/132713722

"About the hatred we have against the Jewish people. As Palestinians, first, we don’t have
hatred. Second we don’t recognize the existence of the Jewish people-there is no Jewish
people. This is not my personal analysis. Here we can refer to the Jewish Israeli professor
from the University of Tel Aviv, Dr. Shlomo Sand, in his book “The Invention of the Jewish people.” A Jew with Israeli passport announces that, the so-called Jewish nation is a made up invention. Because a religion cannot be a people."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Completely true headline
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jul 2015

Here you go:

“According to the book ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ published in 1923, discovered by Lenin after the triumph of the Bolshevik revolution in Russia was over, in that book they mention the destruction of the moralities of other religions,” Jadaa went on. “In that book they put plans of the manipulation of all the financial, economic and industrial apparatus of the entire world. They discuss the manipulation of local political forces from all different countries.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-envoy-says-jews-plotting-world-domination/

Fascinating, though, that you would make that sort of response.

It's really hard for some folks to acknowledge that anti-semites are out there even when they are completely explicit in their anti-semitism.

Perhaps time for some self-reflection on the topic?

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
6. I seriously doubt that you can find any hateful BDS drivel about Jewish power at all.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:46 AM
Jul 2015

However, I have no doubt that you can find more anti-Semitic comments from Imad Nabil Jada'a.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
16. You were shown plenty of hateful drivel from Mondoweiss about Jewish power...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jul 2015

A conspiracy in which a cabal of "powerful" Jews own or influence the media, banks, hollywood, governments....

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. Actually it's 100% identical to the hateful drivel you post about Palestinians
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 01:14 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134105972#post9

Why is Fathi Hamed an acceptable and accurate source to you, and your friends here on DU, but Shlomo Sand is unacceptable?
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Another fascinating response
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 02:13 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe listen to (or read) the actual remarks made by this Palestinian diplomat, specifically where he quotes from the Protocols forgery.

Thankfully, the PA saw fit to dismiss him immediately.

Perhaps time for others to reflect on their response to this?

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
17. So quoting Fathi Hamed is an example of hateful drivel against Palestinians?
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 08:17 AM
Jul 2015

Look at the audience Hamed is addressing. He's not slamming Palestinians. He's demanding help from Egypt, telling them something they already accept as fact. You'll notice the Egyptian interviewer doesn't even question Hamed's statements.

OTOH, Sand's audience are all Israel haters. You'd have a point if Sand were in a conversation with mainstream Jews, discussing his research as if it's already accepted fact among all or most Jews.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
18. Denying the existence and nature of a people is hateful.
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:58 PM
Jul 2015

It doesn't matter if it's Schlomo Sand doing it to jews or Fathi Hamad doing it with Palestinians.

Just because you desperately, DESPERATELY want to deny the existence of Palestinians doesn't make the latter any better than the former.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
19. But I'm not denying they exist now. They certainly do....
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jul 2015

The fact is 100 years ago, Palestinians were Jews. The Arabs of the region did not identify as Palestinians.

Remember the debate about Immanuel Kant? I'm sure you Kan. You Kant have possibly forgotten it since April...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=99812

The Palestinians living among us have, for the most part, earned a not unfounded reputation for being cheaters, because of their spirit of usury since their exile. Certainly, it seems strange to conceive of a nation of cheaters; but it is just as odd to think of a nation of merchants, the great majority of whom, bound by an ancient superstition that is recognized by the State they live in, seek no civil dignity and try to make up for this loss by the advantage of duping the people among whom they find refuge, and even one another. The situation could not be otherwise, given a whole nation of merchants, as non-productive members of society (for example, the Jews in Poland). So their constitution, which is sanctioned by ancient precepts and even by the people among whom they live (since we have certain sacred writings in common with them), cannot consistently be abolished — even though the supreme principle of their morality in trading with us is "Let the buyer beware." I shall not engage in the futile undertaking of lecturing to these people, in terms of morality, about cheating and honesty. Instead, I shall present my conjectures about the origin of this peculiar constitution (the constitution, namely, of a nation of merchants). (Quoted in Immanuel Kant, Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View, tr. Mary J. Gregor (The Hague: Martinus Nijhoff, 1974), p. 77.)


http://bowman.typepad.com/cubowman/2004/06/an_antisemitic_.html

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. Abbas recalls Palestinian ambassador to Chile over anti-Semitic remarks
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 04:35 AM
Jul 2015

According to Palestinian sources, Abbas was furious and instructed his foreign minister Riad al-Malki to recall the envoy for consultations. Abbas reportedly saw the remarks as a sharp deviation from his official line that Palestinians have no quarrel with Jews or Judaism, but oppose Israeli policy.

A Palestinian source says that it is doubtful that the ambassador will return to his post and a replacement will probably be named.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.665308

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