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*In other words, Bibi's meme has been shot to hell
Meron Rapoport
Tuesday 14 July 2015 21:04 UTC
The deal with Iran takes the steam out of Netanyahu's political and military strategy. But that may prove to be Israel's lesser problem
Just four months ago, in March 2015, one month before election day, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu travelled to Washington to deliver what was described as the "speech of his life". The goal was to convince the American Congress not to allow a nuclear deal with Iran, which poses "a grave threat, not only to Israel, but also the peace of the entire world", as did the Nazi regime at its time.
The news coming Tuesday morning from Vienna, announcing a deal between Iran and the P 5 + 1 group (United States, Russia, Britian, France, China and Germany), may therefore mean that Netanyahu failed in what he himself portrayed as his historic mission: to prevent this deal with Islamic regime in Teheran which, according to him, will pave the way for a nuclear Iran in the very near future.
If Netanyahu believes in what he said in Congress earlier this year, he may feel that Israel now is dangerously closer to its doomsday end, that nuclear Iran will be able to fulfill its dream of wiping Israel off the map. It must be a very chilling feeling. If, on the other hand, he used or abused the Iranian threat as a pretext to garner votes among the already frightened Israeli electorate, the Iran deal may mark one of his most bitter political defeats.
True or false, the Iranian threat was one of the main flags, at times it has been the only one, which Netanyahu carried since he was reelected in 2009. He did not invest in this issue only his political and oratorical (some would add demagogical) skills. According to ex-Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Netanyahu's governments spent 11bn NIS ($2.9bn) on military preparations for a possible attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.
- See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/israels-fall-grace-2034426860#sthash.lwZ4OSZM.dpuf
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Martin Eden
(12,870 posts)Substitute (American) for (Israeli) and you have the electoral strategy of the Republican Party.
Sen. Lindsey Graham called the deal "the most dangerous, irresponsible step I have ever seen in the history of watching the Mideast."
Republicans try to claim the mantle of being "strong" on national security, when in fact they are and have been disastrously wrong. Did Graham just wake up from more than a decade in a coma, so he never saw GW's irresponsible invasion of Iraq and the actual dangers it unleashed?
Our nation is weaker and the world a more dangerous place because of the policies Graham supports. Like McCain and other Rethugs, he never saw a war he didn't want. What worries all of them the most is the prospect of a lasting peace in which their warmongering and fearmongering fall on deaf ears.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I know I am.
Mosby
(16,319 posts)Generalizing the strategy to Israel unfairly assignes blame.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)..the majority put him in charge (again) .....you cant have it both ways .
Mosby
(16,319 posts)Likud got barely 24% of the vote and yet he became PM.
Really Israeli, do feel responsible for what Bibi says and does?
You shouldn't in my opinion.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)a coalition of stupid.
That means that a majority of Israelis voted for Likrud et al.
PDittie
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Mosby
(16,319 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)But we already know those get hidden routinely by the Israel sucks brigade. Glad yours stood.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)In the US, any election with a very low turnout, like 2010 and 2014, can result in approximately 18% of the voters electing someone.
A parliamentary system, with multiple parties, means that there are more choices for the voter.
Mosby
(16,319 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:35 AM - Edit history (1)
And there is separation of powers, the parliamentary system gives the legislators far too much power Imo.
I also think run off elections are valuable so that the winning candidate must get at least 50% of the vote.
Voter turn out is a totally separate issue.
Israeli
(4,151 posts)....I voted Left ...always have and always will .